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re: Grayson Byrd says he was no longer having fun

Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:37 pm to
Are you saying that no matter how much he disliked his surroundings, he's childish for leaving such surroundings? He's just supposed to put up with it because it's LSU?

And you're right about Mac's bonus. I never followed up just figured he would get below slot given his position. Instead it went opposite. The draft is so fricked up for MLB.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61750 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:46 pm to
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by ell_13
Are you saying that no matter how much he disliked his surroundings, he's childish for leaving such surroundings? He's just supposed to put up with it because it's LSU?




I'm saying that the fact that the way the coach treated him (his perception of that right or wrong) caused him to literally not enjoy the game reflects poorly on him.

The fact that LSU is what it is (fans, history, ballpark, father's history here) and his relationship with the coach outweighed it to him reflects poorly on him.

The fact that the situation he is leaving was basically so perfect that you could envision him fitting in as a starter at multiple positions and yet his dislike of the coach outweighed that reflects poorly on him.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 6:53 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:51 pm to
There are really two ways to look at this (3 if you're cap crunch) and we're each choosing a different one. He's either childish for letting it get to him. Or it's just that bad that he feels like his experience would be better elsewhere and that's worth it to him. People were guessing at him being a starter. No more. Same with Zardon. People were saying he was AT LEAST the DH. I mean, he was our second best returning bat.

I do understand your point. You've made it well. And I enjoy a good argument.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 6:53 pm
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:09 pm to
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He's either childish for letting it get to him. Or it's just that bad that he feels like his experience would be better elsewhere and that's worth it to him.


And in all honesty, the truth is somewhere in between these two.

I would rather them have left when they did, because this is the year something special will begin to be built.

I personally think this year both Jordan twins step up. I also really believe Duplantis is the big sleeper in this class and could see him making the Newcomer team of the SEC.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:47 pm to
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No. I'm saying that the fact that he cant be happy at LSU because he has a personal issue with the coach is pathetic and childish.

No, pathetic and childish would be leaving because he thinks LSU's workouts are too hard. Or leaving because he can't party enough at LSU.

But having a good relationship with your coach is very important for a young athlete. Being happy and enjoying going to practice everyday is also a very important thing for a young athlete. It's pretty simple to understand really.


Also, I don't see how you can just say that being miserable at LSU is better for him than enjoying himself somewhere else.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 7:49 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61750 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:38 pm to
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No, pathetic and childish would be leaving because he thinks LSU's workouts are too hard. Or leaving because he can't party enough at LSU.



While those two example are childish they do nothing to disprove that his inability to handle Mainieri also childish.

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But having a good relationship with your coach is very important for a young athlete. Being happy and enjoying going to practice everyday is also a very important thing for a young athlete. It's pretty simple to understand really.



He's a kid at the school of his choice, which happens to be a top 10 program at least, with huge opportunity and a clear path to starting in front of him and he couldn't be happy because Mainieri yells at him too much.

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Also, I don't see how you can just say that being miserable at LSU is better for him than enjoying himself somewhere else.



My point is that he shouldn't have been miserable. Being miserable is the symptom of the immaturity I'm referencing.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:48 pm to
So all those who are miserable and stay like you suggested are still immature right?

Your point seems to rely on the idea that no one should be unhappy simply because they are at LSU and have a chance at playing regardless of all other factors. That's very shortsighted and unrealistic.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 8:56 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61750 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:01 pm to
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So all those who are miserable and stay like you suggested are still immature right?

Your point seems to rely on the idea that no one should be unhappy simply because they are at LSU and have a chance at playing regardless of all other factors. That's very shortsighted and unrealistic.



I think there are a ton of kids who would trade the position that they are in for Byrd's former position all things considered.

Do you know where Byrd is going to end up? Is it going to be a comparable situation to LSU? Is he going to get the kid gloves treatment he so desperately needs from his coach?

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:09 pm to
i don't know where he goes. I'm sure it won't be comparable. Although he could be like Barash who left and is now A&M's starting catcher. Without knowing where he goes, I have no clue if his next coach will unnecessarily be an arse.
Posted by LSU Fan49
Member since Jun 2015
30 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:36 am to
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But, what I find interesting is that there are one or two or three LSU posters that agree with his assessment. To you guys... stop posting. Go to the Alabama website. They will appreciate you more.

Posted by StunninSteveAustin
parts unknown
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:24 am to
we all know his pappy had roid rage before he came to christ
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:32 am to
so if you dont like your boss should you stay becuase leaving the job would be childish?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:02 pm to
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so if you dont like your boss should you stay becuase leaving the job would be childish?


Yes. It is childish to expect that you must "like" and be "liked" by everyone you work for and/or with.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22303 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:16 pm to
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I'm giving coach the benefit of the doubt on this one.


How many times does one give a jackass the benefit of the doubt before they are actively deluding themselves?
Posted by gumbodawg
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
414 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:19 pm to
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Do you also love it when the Maineri haters put it all on him?


Nah. But he is the only one getting paid 7 figures so he can probably handle most of the blame.

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I'm interested in your personal interaction with Maineri that gave you this impression. Care to share it?


Call it a hunch.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:35 pm to
I wonder how many times he's been called a dick or jackass in this thread alone. I can only think of one banning from it.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:53 pm to
Who is calling for a ban?

I just wonder how many of those calling him names have ever either met him, worked for/with him in any capacity, personally attended an LSU baseball game, saw an LSU baseball game on television, or even know how to find the LSU campus.

The immature lynch mob attitude is sickening.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:05 pm to
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so if you dont like your boss should you stay becuase leaving the job would be childish?

Yes. It is childish to expect that you must "like" and be "liked" by everyone you work for and/or with.



What??? Are you frikin high? It's not about whether you're liked/not liked. If you're not comfortable with your work environment, move on...no sin in it. as nothing to do with being childish.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:25 pm to
Relax, Gray. I was just thinking out loud. Not saying it validates anything.

People calling Byrd childish are no better.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61750 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:35 pm to
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so if you dont like your boss should you stay becuase leaving the job would be childish?



You should stay because you have a great job and are well paid in a profession that is always what you wanted to do and tons of opportunity to do much better if you hang in there.

It's beyond childish to say "I don't like my boss", I'm going to quit without a comparable job with as much opportunity. In the real world, it's very common to have to work for/with assholes while you laugh all the way to the bank.

Seriously, can someone give a plausible example of something Mainieri might have done that would justify a kid leaving LSU with a starting opportunity staring him in the face? I know nobody has real info, but how about a plausible example. I mean, we aren't talking about locking a kid in an equipment shed are we?
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