re: Glenn Guilbeau on College Football Live today...

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Lonnie4LSU

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Happy with a return to the 1980s.

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Explain how finishing 3rd in the best conference in the country is mediocre.

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explain why you're so insecure about our perception...you know mediocre teams have been great the following season

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explain why you're so insecure about our perception

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Now this is funny.

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It's not outside the realm of possibility that Miles would be on his way out with a 7-5 regular season.

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You are right. Martians could invade the earth too.

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Let's posit an example that simplifies the point. Let's imagine a football team that plays eight games in a season. Lets assume arguendo that they lose every other game 66-0 and win every other game 66-0. At the end of the season, what is their record? 4-4, right? So overall the team has a mediocre season. They are simply meediocre with a high standard deviation, but mediocre nonetheless.

The same logic applies with equal force to your (rather improbable) 0-8, 8-0 hypothetical.

And in reality, because LSU has finished 3-5 and 5-3 over the last two seasons, they are a mediocre team with a low standard deviation. They've performed at or near mediocrity each of the last two seasons.

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You can spin it however you want....the only reason anyone would use '08 as a reference is to push some type of agenda. It was two years ago and has no bearing on what is going on now. Why just use '08? Why not use Miles' SEC record the last 3, 4, or 5 years? This is a rhetorical question ofcourse, because i already know the answer.

I like how you respond to my post but only quote part of it. real slick.

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Assuming you have the capacity to utilize rudimentary logic, of course you could "lump" them together. A rational person would say: "In year one, when it went 0-8, LSU was absolutely atrocious. In year two, when it went 8-0, LSU was exceptional. Taken together, one can reach the conclusion that LSU was a mediocre program ON AVERAGE over the last two season

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See this is where you sound like a complete moron. If LSU was to go 0-8 FIRST YEAR, then we probably are 3-9, 4-8. THE VERY NEXT YEAR we go 8-0 in SEC play it is highly likely we finish 11-, 12-0 SECG, and Sugar Bowl or SECG and BCSNCG.

And then you would lump those two seasons together and call it mediocre

Priceless

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or original, for that matter.

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it was pretty original when he said that Ryan Mallet is a taller, more accurate Tib Tebow. it was a bullshite statement that no one else in the world agrees with,, but still original

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You can spin it however you want....the only reason anyone would use '08 as a reference is to push some type of agenda. It was two years ago and has no bearing on what is going on now. Why just use '08? Why not use Miles' SEC record the last 3, 4, or 5 years? This is a rhetorical question ofcourse, because i already know the answer

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Since you and the rest of the Miles apologists prefer "results only" analysis, here goes.

The deeper we get into the Miles regime, the more he becomes SOLELY responsible for the results. Years 1 and 2 were more about the previous coach's recruits. Yes, Les gets credit for the results, but not SOLE credit. Year 3, Les gets most of the credit. Years 4 and 5, Les gets all of the credit (some would say blame).

The reality is that beginning in Year 4 it is all on Les. Year 4 was complicated by the RP situation, making it more difficult to make an accurate determination of the state of the program.

Since most of us get to actually watch the games, many like me prefer to take a more substantive approach to analyzing LSU football. With this approach we can take into account what we see on the field, rather that what we read in a box score. I, for one, don't like what I see; however, if we only go by the results in the box score, certainly Years 4 and 5 should be a more accurate read of the type of coach you have than Years 1 or 2.

Despite Guilbeau being an arse, do you really thing this would happen with if LSU wins 7 or 8? THis is a different question than if Les SHOULD keep his job.

I think if LSU has a winning record he stays given the econonomic climate and Les' buyout and the cost of hiring a top-tier coach.