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re: Game Notes vs Florida in Swamp (long)

Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:15 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:15 am to
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I don’t understand why people keep dismissing the drops on the last drive


Th thing that bothered me more on that final drive was the amount of pressure UF got while only rushing 3. But those drops were also horrendous.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:11 am to
I think the line improves at hone but that was a terrible performance on Saturday. Curious to see if they stick with the same group
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:22 am to
LE , appreciate your comments.

Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:31 am to
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Did I always do breakdowns? No. Why did I start? To promote a healthy, rational discussion on the game



Was healthy, rational discussion not warranted in previous years?



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Tell me when I ever got on a coach & it was unwarranted.



Well you literally use the words “hate” and “loathe” among many others to describe your feelings on the previous coach. Is that type of rhetoric warranted in a “healthy, rational” discussion of a game??



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You either have a point or you don’t. So let’s hear it.



My point is simple. You are an apologist for the current head coach. That is obvious to anyone that can see your avatar.

You can’t give an honest evaluation of the job he’s doing because you are simply so thrilled to be rid of the coach you “hate” that you don’t particularly care if the program is better off in the long run or not.

So you break down every little detail of each play, as if the same thing couldn’t have been done under the last coach, so as to distract from the larger picture that we simply haven’t made a single step beyond where that last coach, which you so adamantly despise, left us.


By the way, I noticed very little discussion of the defensive line in your otherwise exhaustive breakdown. A position you vehemently attacked me for questioning how much better it actually was in the offseason when you and many others claimed it had been restocked and reloaded by the man in your avatar.


But by all means, keep “promoting”. It’s the way of the Orgeron era, for sure
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:41 am to
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So you break down every little detail of each play, as if the same thing couldn’t have been done under the last coach, so as to distract from the larger picture that we simply haven’t made a single step beyond where that last coach, which you so adamantly despise, left us.


Dude you are coming unhinged. Do you see how Tiger Ree looks? That is you right now. I can promise you there is no conspiracy here regarding myself, my dislike for Les Miles, & my point of views on Coach O, which have been fair & even.

As far as my avatar, it is there to piss off simpletons like you. So thank you for the reaction. How can I be an O apologist when I point out the good & the bad surrounding this program? Kick rocks troll
Posted by pellietigersaint
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:48 am to
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Brb give me 20min to read all this.


comes to message board.....bitches about reading.


stick to the home page retard. they have pictures there for you
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:56 am to
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I can promise you there is no conspiracy here regarding myself, my dislike for Les Miles, & my point of views on Coach O, which have been fair & even



Just the fact that you are now doing these breakdowns to “promote healthy, rational” discussion proves this absolutely false.

As for your “fair and even” views, I’ve seen lots of posts pointing out things that players and assistants have done, but have you said one single thing about something O specifically did that you didn’t agree with? I don’t just mean this game, I mean ever. If I missed it, please correct me.

You even said O’s decision to kick a FG when we likely had a 1st down was 100% correct


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How can I be an O apologist when I point out the good & the bad surrounding this program?


About the “program”, not the coach.


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As far as my avatar, it is there to piss off simpletons like you.


It doesn’t piss me off, it’s hilarious. It shows what a “cuck” you are


Oh and you pick an avatar to “piss off simpletons”, but I’m the troll?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 11:02 am to
Good breakdown Lester


I am far from an O supporter, but I came away more angry with Aranda than any other coach.


He just refused to blitz with any consistency. Franks is a bad QB who becomes a horrendous QB with pressure.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 11:03 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 11:02 am to
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Just the fact that you are now doing these breakdowns to “promote healthy, rational” discussion proves this absolutely false.


Right, I fluff O yet I’ve been critical of things this team has done all year. Just as I was last season. Just as I was this past recruiting cycle. You truly are delusional & it’s sad that this is engulfing you.

I’m like all fans I want LSU to be successful. If Coach O proves to be incapable, I am going to say it. That doesn’t scare me I’m hoping to call the coaches show this week to ask him a tough question& you’re sitting over here mad that I called Les Miles bad names. Lol. Stop detailing this thread with your Tiger Ree shite
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 11:03 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 11:10 am to
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Right, I fluff O yet I’ve been critical of things this team has done all year


“This team”.

Still waiting on that list of the things you’ve specifically criticized O for, not to mention your thoughts on O’s stacked DL



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You truly are delusional & it’s sad that this is engulfing you.


I’ve made like a dozen posts since the game. How many have you made?


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I’m hoping to call the coaches show this week to ask him a tough question


I’m “engulfed” but you’re already planning out your coaches show question

I’m sure it’ll be a doozy
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 11:30 am to
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This team”.

Still waiting on that list of the things you’ve specifically criticized O for, not to mention your thoughts on O’s stacked DL


He’s the head coach. Does it really need to be said that if his assistants aren’t coaching well & his players aren’t playing well that he is held responsible?

The defensive line has been fine. Their job is to anchor and let the LBs run to the ball, which they executed yesterday only to have the LBs miss tackles that would have put us in a much better position to win games. Which DL specifically do you think is playing bad? Even Ed Alexander & Justin Farrell came in the and yesterday & made plays.

Florida’s chunk yardage on the ground came on the boundary. And when they did run between tackles most of the time our LBs wet thete to clean up. Sometimes they did sometimes they didn’t. What are you seeing?

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I’ve made like a dozen posts since the game. How many have you made?



I’ve msde a bunch...about the actual game. I’m not creating conspiracy theories about people & about hating les miles & loving coach orgeron & not making these discussion threads during les Miles’ tenure. Like wut? I can guarantee you I don’t like coach O anymore than I liked Miles when he was starting off. Give it a break, Ree.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:01 pm to
Lester, what's your take on the lack of pass rush? If we can't get to Franks, Tua will be back there shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1541 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:27 pm to
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but my biggest gripe will always be O rushing to kick a fg without calling a timeout for a review, or even going for it after the timeout.. for 1 f-ing yard.. a qb sneak is nearly impossible to defend for a year and it was early enough in the game to go for it there.


THIS changed everything.. we could have possibly got a td, but at least we run the clock down and they dont score right after, before the half... 7 or maybe 11 point swing!
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:19 pm to
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He’s the head coach. Does it really need to be said that if his assistants aren’t coaching well & his players aren’t playing well that he is held responsible?



You certainly made it clear under the last guy.



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The defensive line has been fine. The defensive line has been fine. Their job is to anchor and let the LBs run to the ball



Against the run, I suppose. But wouldn’t you also want a dominant DL to get some push? Move the LOS? Command double teams? Make a play in the backfield from time to time?

Have you seen that kind of consistent dominant performance by this front?

And that isn’t even touching on the lack of pass rush. If a QB as mediocre as Felipe Franks has time and is comfortable enough to make the plays that he did I’d say the DL has plenty of room for improvement.

Imagine that, though, the one unit the HC would have the most influence on has been fine.




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I’m not creating conspiracy theories about people & about hating les miles & loving coach orgeron & not making these discussion threads during les Miles’ tenure. Like wut?



I mean, it isn’t a “conspiracy theory”.

Your hatred of the previous coach is well documented on this board. Your affinity for the current one is equally so.

All of a sudden wanting “healthy, rational” discussion of the game when the current coach is catching some heat when you contributed anything but under the last guy ruins your credibility.
Posted by ToddNance
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 4:09 pm to
LINK

heres what I was able to find
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:09 pm to
Agree with Oline play. That weakness takes about half of the playbook off the table
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:13 pm to
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but my biggest gripe will always be O rushing to kick a fg


We kicked the FG with 3 seconds on the playclock. He didn't rush anything

Posted by ToddNance
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:49 pm to
6 different starting formations for 6 different games. LSU was fortunate it didnt catch up with them sooner.


The game camer down to 2 things: the momentum shift after the burrow fumble and the decision for brossette to not re enter the game on the last two series.
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