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Fun Hypothetical: LSU wins it all by 2020. Does Les Miles get any credit?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:33 pm
Scenario: It's January 2020. LSU football has won a national championship and risen back to the top of College Football once again.
1) Does Ed Orgeron get all the credit for righting the ship, promoting Ensminger, bringing in fresh talent, and hiring new coaches/analysts?
2) Does Les Miles get partial credit for originally hiring Aranda/Ensminger (not to mention Orgeron) and handing over a solid program with a great foundation of athletic talent?
Thoughts? You can discuss or assign percentages of credit to Ed, Les, or both.
1) Does Ed Orgeron get all the credit for righting the ship, promoting Ensminger, bringing in fresh talent, and hiring new coaches/analysts?
2) Does Les Miles get partial credit for originally hiring Aranda/Ensminger (not to mention Orgeron) and handing over a solid program with a great foundation of athletic talent?
Thoughts? You can discuss or assign percentages of credit to Ed, Les, or both.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 12:34 pm
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:34 pm to LSUdc
sigh, September2, hurry your arse up!!
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:34 pm to LSUdc
Yes- He should
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:35 pm to LSUdc
Not 2 and half years removed from the team. He didn't win it with those hires before he left and they did what he wanted them to do, so now that they're doing it they're way he doesn't get credit. That passed last year.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:43 pm to LSUdc
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Fun Hypothetical: LSU wins it all by 2020. Does Les Miles get any credit?
In reality, the coach of the team that year is the coach of the team. No one else gets a ring, so assigning "credit" is useless.
That being said, if you were a person who felt the need to credit Saban with 2007's NC, then by all means, Miles gets the same level of credit.
Don't be one of those people...they are usually assholes.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:43 pm to LSUdc
The only credit Miles gets is that we would have won it in spite of him and his lackluster recruiting on the OLine and DLine...
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:56 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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In reality, the coach of the team that year is the coach of the team. No one else gets a ring, so assigning "credit" is useless.
That being said, if you were a person who felt the need to credit Saban with 2007"s NC, then by all means, Miles get the same level of credit.
Spot on.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:58 pm to earl keese
Yes. If anything for bringing in future HC Dave Aranda as DC. 
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:00 pm to LSUdc
Credit always goes to the current staff. Period.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:03 pm to LSUdc
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Fun Hypothetical:
Not really.
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LSU wins it all by 2020. Does Les Miles get any credit?
The better question would be if O would get credit?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:05 pm to LSUdc
This is Obama’s economy.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:07 pm to LSUdc
Miles would be 4 years off the job? Yea, sure, he should get all the credic
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:09 pm to MarlinMan
This has been greatly exaggerated by the O propaganda machine.
It's amazing how some have taken it and ran with it. I was overjoyed when Miles was fired but he didn't leave anything nearly as depleted as some are saying . Miles inability to produce a modern offense which cost games led to his firing. This problem being fixed or not is still to be determined.
It's amazing how some have taken it and ran with it. I was overjoyed when Miles was fired but he didn't leave anything nearly as depleted as some are saying . Miles inability to produce a modern offense which cost games led to his firing. This problem being fixed or not is still to be determined.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:11 pm to Macavity92
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Credit always goes to the current staff. Period.
Tell that to all of the people that give Saban the credit for the '07 championship.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:16 pm to LuzianaFootball
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Not 2 and half years removed from the team. He didn't win it with those hires before he left and they did what he wanted them to do, so now that they're doing it they're way he doesn't get credit. That passed last year.
That's interesting because of how so many people give Saban the credit for Miles team. Saban left in '04 and Miles NC team was in '07.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:17 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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In reality, the coach of the team that year is the coach of the team. No one else gets a ring, so assigning "credit" is useless.
That being said, if you were a person who felt the need to credit Saban with 2007's NC, then by all means, Miles gets the same level of credit.
Don't be one of those people...they are usually assholes.
Right as usual.
But around here, that isn't the case.
Didn't Miles leave a program in shambles anyway? We were basically Middle Tennessee State when he left right? I mean, that is the narrative.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:18 pm to Goldrush25
And when I've asked if Miles would get credit for a '19 championship, I've been told that Miles didn't leave shite and shouldn't get credit.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:29 pm to Freauxzen
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Didn't Miles leave a program in shambles anyway?
If only we had the talent to have beaten Troy last season...?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:34 pm to LSUdc
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Fun Hypothetical
No fun at all
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does les miles get partial credit
No.
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does O get all the credit
No, some credit would go to Ensminger for righting the offense. Some credit would go to Aranda.
Obviously O gets credit but he would not get all, in fact I would say Ensminger would get majority credit in this "hypothetical scenario."
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:23 pm to LSUdc
No
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