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Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:09 pm to QB
Brent Venables is an outlier man. That very rarely works out like that. All of the top programs have regular turnover. That means the guy you have is doing a great job.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:09 pm to QB
Or (no I’m not advocating for it) , but for an unforeseen reason O is gone in a couple of years. Then Freeman is promoted to HC. It’s possible.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:09 pm to Magician2
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You can't get stability from the coordinators staging long term.
Seems to not be much of a problem at Alabama.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:10 pm to Ironhead985
Dude...I didn't say I didn't want him. I just simply asked a question about Mason. I don't know if they are equal or if Mason sucks. I am not against Freeman in any way....I was hoping someone might give some evaluation of Mason....because Freeman just might not want to coach LSU. He turned down Mich State DC job.
Of course, not a single person said anything about Mason's abilities, even though my understanding is that he is interviewing.
Of course, not a single person said anything about Mason's abilities, even though my understanding is that he is interviewing.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:11 pm to QB
Orgeron needs to focus on one year at a time
The more we focus on hiring guys who stay long term, the more we get guys like Pelini.
The more we focus on hiring guys who stay long term, the more we get guys like Pelini.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:11 pm to QB
At LSU it is best for every coordinator to leave after two or three years max. After that you will eventually become the villain and everyone will say “the game has passed him by” “the message has gone stale” and “he doesn’t relate to the players anymore”
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:12 pm to QB
John Brady was at LSU one year and that resulted in a national title, he was so good. You go with the best coaches. Saban has elite coaches as well that move on.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:16 pm to SPEEDY
quote:LSU aint Alabama and Orgeron aint Saban, by any stretch of the imagination.......,
Yeah....the constant turnover in their coordinators positions has really hurt Alabama’s recruiting
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:17 pm to QB
If Freeman helps bring us a championship in a few years, I’ll support him going on to HC gig!
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:18 pm to QB
I want the best coach available, period. If LSU ends up being a consistent spring board to the NFL and/or HC positions for our coordinators, then we will just keep attracting good coaches. Akin to recruiting players who have NFL aspirations.
I see your point and don’t disagree, but I just don’t see how we could pass on Freeman. And I think Mason would be a lame duck hire.
I see your point and don’t disagree, but I just don’t see how we could pass on Freeman. And I think Mason would be a lame duck hire.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:19 pm to semjase
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LSU aint Alabama and Orgeron aint Saban, by any stretch of the imagination.......,
So what’s your point? We should aspire to get mediocre coaches to work for Orgeron?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:20 pm to The Egg
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The more we focus on hiring guys who stay long term, the more we get guys like Pelini.
Amen
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:20 pm to QB
In my opinion I’d rather have ambitious hires that feel like they have to prove themselves for the next level. That way we are always in line for marquee (young) hires
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:22 pm to QB
Hire the best, then if they leave, hire the best again.
It’s not complicated.
It’s not complicated.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:22 pm to QB
Your probably not worth a crap if nobody wants your coordinators. So I hope we can snag the guy.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:25 pm to QB
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He seems to be a good D coach
Stanford's defense got better after he left.
Vanderbilt's defense got worse when he got there.
"Good D coach" my fricking arse.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:26 pm to QB
Ask yourself whether Freeman or Mason have more recent DC experience.
The hire is the answer to that question for every candidate compared to Mason.
The hire is the answer to that question for every candidate compared to Mason.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:27 pm to QB
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Freeman will be gone in two years if LSU is any good at all on defense, so does that even matter anymore? I would personally like more stability for recruiting.
Guys like Venables are not the norm and impossible to predict. Generally speaking, if you have a good coordinator, he's probably going to get attention for HC jobs and not be around long-term. That's just the nature of coaching. If you want "stablility," you're generally left with older retreads. We've tried those plenty here.
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