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re: Former tennis player goes public on Davis.*Interesting Updates*

Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5876 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Davis.


Just hit me .. Davis' dad (Lester Earl) set LSU basketball back about 10 years or so.. Now Davis' may set football back the same amount
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10464 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:24 pm to
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From what was allegedly said Idont if you have to suspend Davis because he got into a fight with his GF. Now if they knew he was really just beating the shite out of her, it’s still not great. It’s the years earlier prior abuse that concerns me. If LSU knew about that and let it go on that’s really fricking bad.

There are huge differences in every persons upbringing as a child. Some guys were never taught as a kid, that under no circumstance do you ever hit a girl. And the same thing with the girls - many different levels of upbringing.

I only say this because you would think, that a flagship university like LSU, would have 2 staff members (a male and a female) in the Athletic Dept whose job is to meet bimonthly or weekly with EVERY student athlete to teach and discuss: Managing your personal life as a Student Athlete.

Do we not have something like this in place?


Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18882 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:40 pm to
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Not required for firing with cause. Due process applies to a court of law.

They probably haven't been fired them yet because LSU is trying to figure out how to minimize the fallout from the entire situation.
And now that LSU is at this point... firing Sell (or anyone else) over this is an admission of guilt on their part.

Which would be ok normally and the best thing to do... EXCEPT... the USAT article [tried to] established that this is institutional and systematic.

So an admission of guilt by Sell (or Verge, or anyone else) as it stands today is by default an admission of guilt for the whole school and it's Title IX compliance.

Which, just to start with- just the beginning, is a whole lot of federal funding up in smoke probably before the end of Q1 2021.

That's why it is important to, IF it is REALLY the case, establish if only one person (Sell) did the non-reporting and/OR made it impossible for anyone else in the chain from doing their duties (instead of them choosing to do the same).

It's also a question if it is only one of the two Sells who were a party. If both of the Sells, Mike and Julia, did cover ups and non-reporting it still isn't systematic and a conspiracy. They are one entity as co-coaches.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:43 pm to
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The article also shows that a Title IX investigation was ongoing at the end of April. We don’t know exactly when that investigation started.


Sooooo.....

We actually don't know anything about anything. It could be that everyone within the organization (excluding perhaps Sells if she is lying about when she knew) did everything exactly correct.
Posted by wwxww
Dulac, LA
Member since Dec 2019
589 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:50 pm to
What we dealing with here is a complete lack of respect for the law.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:56 pm to
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It's embarrassing how the LSU administration has handled this.
How have they handled this? You don't know.
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Let the heads roll. frick them all.

Put the pitchfork down, you don't know.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12579 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:57 pm to
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This is all I see in the article. Why didn't he call off-campus police?

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Mithridates6

Other than being contrarian, what point are you trying to make in this thread? Are you trying to blame the father for the continued abuse? Are you suggesting that his failure, or his daughter’s failure, to call the police and report every suspected incident somehow absolves the tennis staff of their obligations under university policy and the law?

I’m sure her father feels terrible about not doing more, in hindsight. Any father would.

Here’s the difference:

Parents don’t have a handbook for dealing with suspected domestic abuse. But coaches and administrators do.

Parents don’t have the ability to bring in witnesses for mandatory interviews to gather evidence. But coaches and administrators do.

Parents aren’t state employees, or paid representatives of the university. Coaches and administrators are.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:02 pm to
It just doesn't add up to me, I would've exhausted very possible avenue to have the matter investigated if i were her father. Call BRPD. Sue the school if they don't do anything, etc. etc.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107909 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:04 pm to
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Sue the school if they don't do anything, etc. etc.

You would be in here saying this is all about money, guaranteed
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:07 pm to
Guarantee you i wouldn't.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107909 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:10 pm to
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Guarantee you i wouldn't.
So even though the father did go to police and lsu, did come visit his daughter and begged her to come home, you are questioning him harder than anyone else

But yeh, you wouldnt be questioning his motives if he sued the school
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:14 pm to
All it says is that he spoke with a campus detective. Why not file a report with BRPD? Was he incapable of disallowing his daughter from seeing Davis again?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:16 pm to
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Was he incapable of disallowing his daughter from seeing Davis again?




Know how I know you don't have kids What kind of comment is this? You gonna sit here and pretend your parents could have complete control over you like that while you were in college?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107909 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:17 pm to
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Was he incapable of disallowing his daughter from seeing Davis again
Ugh, yeh

Thats why this is a nightmare for a father. Realistically, there isnt much you can do
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:33 pm to
One massive police state. I am thinking that I would have left LSU if that were what happened to me. As a father, I would have pulled my son or daughter out and sought counsel on multiple levels.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:38 pm to
I would tell her that she is not going back. All you could do is withhold money.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:40 pm to
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I would tell her that she is not going back. All you could do is withhold money.


Same. My father cut off both my sister and me for not respecting his will at around that age. I guess that's not a popular approach these days though
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
2058 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:46 pm to
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This is what happens when you let west coast, progressive elitists and their ideology infiltrate your campus and university.


Could you explain your thought process in arriving at this conclusion? I legitimately don’t follow
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5460 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Put the pitchfork down, you don't know.


Of course they don't. I've made this point repeatedly. There are myriad gaps and inconsistencies and disputed issues of fact in this saga, which are being filled by unfounded, reckless conjecture and assumption. It amazes me how willing certain people are to leap to emotional conclusions based on a fraction of the relevant record. It reminds me of what happens in regards to controversial police shootings. Every reactive, hyper-emotional poster on the internet immediately comes to absolute conclusions about what happened without ever waiting for the full facts to emerge.

Fortunately, the individuals actually charged with making decisions at LSU will not act as irrationally or brashly as posters here. A full investigation will be conducted by a qualified law firm. The full facts will be disclosed. Then we can assess what occurred and LSU's level of culpability, whatever it might be.

In the meantime, the moderators should consider deleting this thread, as it merely hurts both LSU and the accusers based on little more than gossip.
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:48 pm to
I guess LSU should have installed hidden cameras inside her apartment and watched for when she had Drake come over. Since she is apparently completely helpless in that regard.
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