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re: Former LSU QB Rohan Davey: Blueprint to stop LSU, Brandon Harris is easy

Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:03 am to
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We tried throwing the ball early against syracuse and eastern michigan but harris was missing his mark.
WR drops were more of a problem than Harris.
Agree with developing pass plays in practice, not games. I recall Flynn had like 20 odd game reps prior to dismantling daU.
Strange how some posters can tout 1st year starter success and also claim game reps are needed to develop passing.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:55 am to
There you go........
Posted by rilesrick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 11:39 am to
Awesome insight he must've played college ball ......
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:06 pm to
100% fact.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:09 pm to
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WR drops were more of a problem than Harris.
Agree with developing pass plays in practice, not games. I recall Flynn had like 20 odd game reps prior to dismantling daU.
Strange how some posters can tout 1st year starter success and also claim game reps are needed to develop passing.



Yeah we had more drops last year than any recent year.

But harris did struggle with short and intermediate passes last year. It was really strange because he had a really good deep ball. For young qbs its usually the opposite. They do well with short passes and have to work on their deep ball. But that's why i think Harris will take the next step this year because he can work on his footwork to improve accuracy and maybe tweek some of his delivery to improve accuracy. When the season was over i went back and watched some games on dvr and when they would have some slow mo replays of harris on short routes it would look like he was letting the ball and his throwing hand driftt away from his head on his throwing motion. But when he was throwing deep it was compact and efficient. But hell im sure Cam and Whitfield (dont know if harris is with him this summer) can help him get better. Cam did wonders for mett
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:13 pm to
"Everyone knows this but the one person that counts"

Really? Why do you think we were the top rushing team in the SEC last season?

Coaching question: allow a true sophomore quarterback hitting on about 50% of his passes throw the ball or let one of the best running back in the nation run the ball? Harris hit on like 33% of his pass attempts versus Bama with an int., but we want to throw the ball more?

With all due respect respect to Rohan, but it's not exactly a breaking sports news flash that Harris struggled at times last season with his accuracy and reading Ds,
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:46 pm to
Harris was fairly effective against Arkansas(21/35 270 1:1) Problem was we got owned up front on defense.


again same thing with Ole Miss.

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Most accurate QB under pressure: Brandon Harris, LSU


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He didn’t have the highest completion percentage on throws under pressure, but Harris suffered from his receivers dropping seven passes. Under pressure, now returning SEC quarterback had a higher adjusted completion percentage than Harris’ 67.2 percent.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:56 pm to
Everyone knows the problems. We need solutions.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 2:03 pm to
What surprises me more is this from the comments section
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Can’t really argue, although I don’t remember Rohan Davey being great or anything.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:02 pm to
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Here we go again. Diminishing an embarrassing mishap by our head coach multiple times


It happens everywhere. Ivs seen Bill Belichick make dumb clock decisions. At no time did i diminish anything. My god youre just like peej. I said it doesnt happen anymore often to miles as it does with other coaches. My god. Either youre doing it on purpose or you seriously suck at reading comprehension.

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You are honestly the only LSU fan I have talked to defending that bullshite.


What the frick are you talking about? I never defended it. I said it doenst happen to Miles anymore than other coaches. My god peej.

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Yea every team has clock issues I agree with that but the complete dumbfounded look on his face tells it all.


Then why even respond to my post? I swear you and peej are literally the only posters ive seen read a post and take it to mean something that no one else on here would take it to mean.
I never made dismissed his clock mismanagements.
All i said was that if lsu fans follow other programs as intently as they follow lsu they would realize that every coach has the same problem with management.


This is my post...
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for example the clock mismanagement issue that people love to beat to death on here. Every single program and every single nfl franchise has clock management issues. Lsu doesnt have them more often than other programs its just that when lsu fans see other teams have these issues it isnt a lasting memory because that program isnt close to their heart like lsu is.


Id like to understand how you can read that post and come away thinking im diminishing his frick ups.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 4:19 pm
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
3782 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:16 pm to
Trump is envious of the amount of winning in Ro's comments. Man speaks the truth.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26647 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:15 pm to
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We tried throwing the ball early against syracuse and eastern michigan but harris was missing his mark. You dont keep throwing with a struggling qb while you have lf in thhe backfield.


Watch those games again. Most blame should be geared towards the receivers. I hate how they barely if ever get mentioned in conversation about the passing game last year.

The passing game was all f**ked up the past 2 years. Pass blocking, QB play, receiver play, coaching, play calling, scheme, none of it has been up to par the past 2 years. The passing game isn't a one person blame.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:20 pm to
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The passing game was all f**ked up the past 2 years. Pass blocking, QB play, receiver play, coaching, play calling, scheme, none of it has been up to par the past 2 years. The passing game isn't a one person blame.


That's all I'm saying bro! Spread some of the damn blame
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7346 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:11 pm to
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Id like to understand how you can read that post and come away thinking im diminishing his frick ups.




When you make excuses by saying " oh well other teams have clock issues too so I don't understand why LSU fans bitch about it" that is making it seem like it is less of an issue than it really is. That's the definition of diminishing something retard. Why in the hell would LSU fans keep up with other teams as much as their own anyway? That makes zero sense


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All i said was that if lsu fans follow other programs as intently as they follow lsu they would realize that every coach has the same problem with management.



Again why the frick would they? Yea coaches do have clock mismanagement issues but the ones that Miles has are memorable not only by LSU fans but by the country because of how bizarre and clueless he looks while making them.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24269 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:11 pm to
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Ro will go down in my personal LSU Hall of Fame for one game: he was a J.Reed fumble after the catch on what would have been a 75 yrd pass, catch & run TD from lighting bama up for 700+ yrds in passing. LSU blew the tide out on the road in one of LSU's best games ever against the tide. LSU ended up with a bit over 600 yrds passing that game.



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LSU ended up with 528 passing. The fumble would have gotten you around the 560 mark. Not 700.


I love the fact that you remember the exact amount of passing yards Rohan torched Bama for.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24269 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:17 pm to
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Ro is right, but Ro didn't exactly light things up in his second season at LSU.

In reality after a redshirt year and three years playing Ro had just 1068 yards passing, and 11 TDs.

It's easier said than done.


It is easier said than done, but he really couldn't get on the field much for those first years so that's a little misleading. Herb Tyler was the QB when he first got there and nobody was starting over him. Then everybody was obsessed with Booty coming back to the LSU program.

Rohan came off the bench in 1999 to lead LSU to their only significant win that year against a high-ranked Arkansas team in the finale after LSU had suffered 8 straight losses. He was named SEC Player of the Week for that performance. Then in 2000, he was SEC Player of the Week again for LSU's biggest win that year (and one of the best ones ever) with that win against highly ranked Tennessee in Death Valley. Then he came off the bench again and was the MVP in the Peach Bowl after leading LSU back to victory. So he showed some big flashes before he exploded when the team was his in 2000.



This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 10:20 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10919 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 11:07 pm to
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As if passing against mid majors helps you against bama.
The ONLY way to develop timing and chemistry with your WR's is to throw it a lot during games. Doesn't matter WHO you're throwing against. You've got to get the reps with your receivers in by spending a lot of time developing that timing in practice and games.

If you're "Not Good" at something, the only way to become "Good" is to practice it. I don't care how close or what the score is, Miles needs to spend all the OOC games throwing the football.

Give the RB's a few "Stay Fresh" downs, then get them out. They don't need practice running fast, but Harris/Etling certainly need game reps throwing the football, because that's what we'll need in the second half against the Big Boy SEC teams.

Miles should've done this last season, but he didn't and we all know what happened. Will be no difference this year either. Either practice the passing game in OOC games or it will be a repeat of 2015 no doubt...................
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10090 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:09 am to
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The ONLY way to develop timing and chemistry with your WR's is to throw it a lot during games. Doesn't matter WHO you're throwing against.
Matt Flynn at this, then rang JT and Cardale who both
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15650 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 8:06 am to
Yep. I'm trying to be optimistic about the upcoming season, but reality keeps my hopes in check. And what Davey says is the main reason I can't get too excited. Again it will not be hard to figure out a way to stop LSU.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50344 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 8:18 am to
Rohan is forgetting the blueprint is easy but executing is not.

Defense also gave up 30+ in every loss last year.
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