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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staff

Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:33 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:33 am to
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However when averaged out, viola...


:holy shite:

averaging out biased polls dosen't remove bias. It just means that they are the averages of biased polls.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:34 am to
Lmao yea but you only went and found that out after embarrassing yourself with the BCS comment. You’re pathetic attempts to cover your tracks are failing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:34 am to
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averaging out biased polls dosen't remove bias. It just means that they are the averages of biased polls.


Would you agree the more polled the less individual bias matters?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:35 am to
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Texas had a far better win than anyone WSU played. The P12 is terrible.


A voter choosing to use best win over other criteria when ranking is bias.

This isnt hard to understand.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:36 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:35 am to
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Would you agree the more polled the less individual bias matters?


Please don't tell me you're going to try and say 61 is enough to eliminate biases again.

Jesus
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:35 am to
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But that’s not what they’re paid to do


That's exactly what they're paid to do. Unlike retired coaches, ADs and professors
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:36 am to
The computer polls are very different than all the different human polls you’re defending proving you wrong again.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:36 am to
Media members, on average, watch more football than the average fan. Many fans only watch their own team for one thing..
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:36 am to
My god you’re ignorant
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:37 am to
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Please don't tell me you're going to try and say 61 is enough to eliminate biases again.


Im comfortable with it It seems somewhat consistent with the composite with some minor changes in the top ten. Not enough to worry about.

What's your alternative?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:38 am to
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Media members, on average, watch more football than the average fan. Many fans only watch their own team for one thing..


What does the average fan have to do with anything being discussed?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:38 am to
No that’s what media members do. They watch their team or the team they’re assigned to they hustle interviews prior to and after those games then they go write their stories for deadline. Not much time to watch multiple games in that profession.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:38 am to
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My god you’re ignorant


And you're a child
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:38 am to
How ironic
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:40 am to
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Im comfortable with it


Bully for you. What does this have to do with anything?

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What's your alternative?


I'm not really sure why you keep asking this. I figured sooner or later you'd catch on to the fact that no one is saying theres a better alternative. We're just pointing out the stupidity in you saying the current format is completely unbiased.

Difficult concept, but certainly within your grasp.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:42 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:41 am to
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They watch their team or the team they’re assigned to



Sounds like something you saw on a tv show.

There are beat reporters and guys that work national games
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:43 am to
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My god you’re ignorant


He's not ignorant. Being ignorant would imply that he hasn't been educated on a certain topic. This dude is constantly educated on certain things, and he always chooses to twist things to fit hit narrative.

He's not ignorant, he is flat out stupid.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:44 am to
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No that’s what media members do. They watch their team or the team they’re assigned to they hustle interviews prior to and after those games then they go write their stories for deadline. Not much time to watch multiple games in that profession


Exactly right.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:45 am to
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Except the computer polls. 



Even they have some bias. Human opinion decides which criteria are more important to ranking teams.
They also use those boased polls in their rankings.

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What's a better method? I've asked you and you've avoided


I havent avoided shite. You said polls had no bias. I dont care about your knew goal post position.
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Composites generally mitigate the biases to a good degree 


Getting the mean of biased polls isnt mitigating bias.
Every single person that votes in cfb polls is biased in some way.

Youre acting as if half the people arent biased and the other half is and then the mean fixes it.

When in reality its all voters that are biased in some way and composites take the mean of those biased polls.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:47 am to
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havent avoided shite. You said polls had no bias


Polls using a variety of people across the country help mitigate individual bias, absolutely

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Every single person that votes in cfb polls is biased in some way.


Their biases are far less important in a system like the AP or composite.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:49 am
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