re: For those BCS lovers who think...

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WTF do you think is the focus every sunday during the BCS selection show?

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I don't give a frick about some "show", I'm interested in COMPETITION. You know, those Saturday afternoons/evenings what's happening on the FIELD.

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The focus is who gets to play for the championship.

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Maybe that's their focus, maybe that's your focus. That's not MY focus. And if you listen to what the coaches say EVERY WEEK, that's not their focus either.

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You should become a fan of Tulane since your not interested in the end result of a season

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You should become a fan of the English language. But again, talk to Coach about focusing on the end of the season.

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that is loser talk.

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Here is where we diverge. I've just been explaining what my position is and how I personally enjoy LSU football - basically game by game, focusing more on the party before the game, sitting in the stadium watching the game, and the party after the game. I'm not judging anyone for how they choose to enjoy the game. But now you want to tell me that I'm doing it wrong.

frick you.

You're just a child. You think the orgasm is everything. Maybe in time you'll come to realize that the time spent getting to the orgasm is just as enjoyable as the end result.

Apparently you're just full of premature ejaculation talk.

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A simple 8 team playoff would work perfectly.

-Regular season is still important

-Multiple teams get a shot (even non-BCS teams)

-Current bowl system can be kept in place

-Playoffs wouldn't last too long

Most would agree that the top 8 teams would all be competitive in the championship game year in and year out.

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This wouldnt be too bad. Then I would just hate it for selfish reasons because I cant afford to make that many cross country trips and I hate when Im not able to say I saw it there in person

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I would be in favor of a very small playoff, usually 4 teams... maybe 6 sometimes

I would not be in favor of a system that would generally (rare exceptions) include say both LSU and Auburn this year... they played that game and there was a winner. Unless the NCAA acts with unusual haste and DQs Auburn from consideration I think we should blame LSU for failing to win more than be upset Oregon, Auburn, Boise etc are there instead)

I have a real dislike of most of the proposed systems with invites going to all the conference champions and a couple at larges... although politically feasible they let in too many marginal teams. My major love of college football is the stadium atmosphere, the crushing consequences of losing and the unbelievable highs of winning or just knocking off one of your rivals

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I agree with a lot of this. I would prefer a plus-one format before any 4 or 6-team playoff. The problem with a playoff is that any team left out is going to complain if they feel they deserve to be there.

So how does a playoff instantly legitimize a championship? You would still need a system to decide who gets in. Everyone points to March Madness, but that field is completely subjective to human decision as well and the tournament committee uses RPI as a factor, which is as convoluted as any BCS formula.

The BCS isn't great, but it's better than what we had before. A playoff can never be a perfect solution when it creates other problems.

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Exactly, full seasons, and the Pats didn't finish theirs.

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Exactly, full seasons, and the Giants didn't start theirs until December.

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If they were so much better, they should've beat them when it counted. And that regular season game was awfully close, so to think that the Pats were head and shoulders better than the Giants doesn't hold ground.

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And that Super Bowl was obviously close. I never said the Pats were head and shoulders better. Do you think the Giants were head and shoulders better than the Pats?

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Are you seriously arguing against the NFL playoffs? Why do they even have playoffs in your view? Should they just crown the team with the best record at the end of the season? In your world the Colts would have 5 Superbowls right now.

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Yes I am. Playoffs are about money. There are too many teams in the league and too many teams in the playoffs. BTW, the NFL used to crown champions based on who finished with the best record at the end of the season. They started championship games between the top-2 teams to generate revenue and interest b/c everyone cared about college football more.

@ rintintin

We are surrounded by idiots, my man.

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That kind of sums it up right there.

It didn't count during the regular season.

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You CAN'T compare NFL to NCAA. NFL plays 16 games and they DO NOT use polls to rank their teams. Do they have multiple undefeated and 1 loss teams in the NFL at the end of the season? NO!

NCAA has 119 teams, in which human polls are used to determine who is better. 1-loss could still potentially knock a team out if a playoff was implemented, therefore the regular season would NOT be diminished.

How many times do I have to repeat myself for people to get it?

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but they won when it counted

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What does this mean exactly? That the regular season doesn't matter that much? Weren't you arguing that playoffs don't diminish regular seasons?

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So every single sport in the world implemented playoffs just for money, not for the fact that every team doesn't get to play each other during the regular season, therefore crowning a team simply on record would be misguided?

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Every professional sport in the world is all about money, with or without playoffs. And I'm not arguing to crown a team simply on record alone in today's game. I'm arguing that playoffs can create just as many what-if scenarios as there are without them. I'm perfectly happy with a 2-team playoff in college football now or possibly a plus-one format.

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it is even more illogical for college football not to have a playoff, considering college football has much more teams than most other sports, therefore teams play far different schedules than others making it almost impossible to determine who is better solely by looking at their record.

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Absolutely, it is impossible to determine who is better solely on record. But college football doesn't do that anyway; that's why they have BCS rankings, conference rankings and countless analysts to give us the most satisfying outcome to the season. So, how would you determine an 8-team playoff and how is it a perfect system?

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What does this mean exactly? That the regular season doesn't matter that much? Weren't you arguing that playoffs don't diminish regular seasons?

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Read my above post. We got in 2 separate discussions and it kind of threw me off point.

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I'm arguing that playoffs can create just as many what-if scenarios as there are without them.

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I totally agree, but as I've stated earlier in this thread, the controversy is much less when it's concerning who the number 8 and 9 teams are, rather than the number 2 and 3 teams. Especially when there are multiple undefeated teams, which has happened often lately.

It's just picking the lesser of the 2 evils I guess. Kinda like the presidential election .

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It's just picking the lesser of the 2 evils I guess

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THAT'S EXACTLY IT!

What I'm saying is that if you're not going to come up with a truly better system, don't frick with it. This is the system I grew up knowing and appreciating in college football.

If you don't fricking like it, DON'T frickING WATCH IT! All the other sports seem to have what you're looking for, just watch them.

Why frick it up for the people that do like it, and have always liked it?