re: For the people throwing in the towel WAY too early

It's pretty much a must sweep this weekend

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why do other programs like tcu not have to resort to the pathetic "we're national seeds" claim. they can actually point to REAL wins at the cws

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Oh really because 9 of Schlossnagle's 13 years they had 0 wins

I use that analogy because idiots like you want to compare PM to Miles. Same thing

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9 of Schlossnagle's 13 years they had 0 wins

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yes we've been over this. mainieri has had a LITTLE more consistency than some other coaches. but he's also failed to reach the heights that several other coaches have. guess who else was a consistent winner but ended up getting fired? hint: he coached across the street from mainieri.

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i realize you don't like facts and statistics. that's all you had to say. all i have done is point out the cws records of coaches. the response is always the same - but, but NATIONAL SEEDS

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No the facts are there isn't one coach out there that can consistently win in Omaha from a conference as strong as the SEC. All you point out is coaches that have won more games than PM in Omaha without taking into consideration the years they have coached at that program vs the championships they have won(which is zero more times than not) PM has more accomplishments than all of them. You don't have one logical replacement for the guy so deal with it. He's not going anywhere. Every single coach in the other thread you mentioned that I didn't get a chance to respond to are lateral hires. Every single one of them have had way worse years back to back than PM has ever had. You dumb fricks would have filled the Mississippi by now with all your tears if that happened here

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No the facts are there isn't one coach out there that can consistently win in Omaha from a conference as strong as the SEC

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that's not a fact and you have no idea whether this is true or not.

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without taking into consideration the years they have coached at that program vs the championships they have won(which is zero more times than not)

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first, the defenders are the ones complaining that critics are expecting championships every year, which they aren't, and then complain that it's an unreasonable expectation. then, you do the very same thing in this comment, uphold championships as the standard.

btw, what difference does it make how many years they've been there vs championships? this brings back the question i've been asking - how long are you people going to give mainieri a pass for that nearly 10 year old championship when other programs are outdoing him over the last 7 years? it's so ridiculous for this tiny crew of stubborn sycophants to keep acting like 7 years is just too short a time period to judge him by.

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You don't have one logical replacement for the guy

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no one does. all i did was post stats and facts. most people can see mainieri is falling short, thus the growing angst that you are battling. you're right, no one knows FOR SURE whether another coach would be more successful but, you don't hold coaches accountable to that standard because if you did, no coach would ever get fired for non-scandal reasons which is obviously stupid.

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Every single coach in the other thread you mentioned that I didn't get a chance to respond to are lateral hires

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based on what? you say it can't be proven that any of the better coaches would be more successful and then here act you can prove that they won't be. you can't have it both ways.

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Every single one of them have had way worse years back to back than PM has ever had

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yet they're still better because you keep focusing on the low points. should miles have been fired? careful....

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Since Mainieri started here in '07, there's only 1 coach who has reached "higher heights" than Mainieri

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i don't disagree with that. but my question remains - how long are you going to give mainieri a pass for '09? it's not like the last 7 years is too short a time period to judge him by. especially given that several other programs have eclipsed lsu in that time.

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yes it's a fact because there isn't a coach who has done it consistently

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what world are you living in? yes, there ARE coaches out there who can consistently win at the cws and we have laid out the records of the ones who do. alternatively, mainieri has ONE, count it, ONE cws win. do you know the records of other coaches at the cws? look up o'sullivan, corbin, savage, lopez, o'connor, tanner, etc. it's like you live in an alternative dimension.

moreover, your assertions that none of them could do it in the sec or that none of them would come to lsu are laughable. two from the sec (another retired) are ALREADY winning at the cws more than mainieri. the others, you have no idea whether they could do it or not and you have no idea whether they would come to lsu and you have no idea whether they would be more successful than mainieri. you're just acting like you know things that you don't.

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No I'm simply pointing out that having won a championship is better than not at all

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exactly. verbal gymnastics to cover up your inconsistency. name ONE post where lsu fans are saying championships are the expectation. you haven't done that one time yet you keep acting like everyone has unreasonable expectations. then, you're throwing in mainieri's 8 year old championship to prop him up so that you don't look stupid trying to defend him against coaches who have CLEARLY been superior since.

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which is what the coaches you want have on their resume

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you have no idea who i want. all i have done is point out the records at the cws and the budgets of the respective schools to illustrate roi. that's it. you can't deal with that so you've continually misrepresented my position and irrationally defended something statistically inferior.

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You are the one that wants PM gone because it's been too long since we've won another one

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i have never said this, not one time. without lying about me, you have no argument whatsoever.

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You don't get rid of a guy that put you in a position every single year to host a super regional which only 8 schools in the ENTIRE country can do.

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sure you can. absolutely you can and you should if he's falling short in the measure that ACTUALLY COUNTS - cws wins. it's astonishing you can't understand this facile point. A NATIONAL SEED IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. it is a subjective reward from an imperfect panel based on regular season record in a sport with a postseason playoff. i'll ask again - SHOULD MILES HAVE BEEN FIRED, YES OR NO?

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only 8 schools in the ENTIRE country can do

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here's a fact that seems to escape you - despite the "seeding" teams can still go on to have postseason success or failure. the "seeding" does not mean you "accomplished" something. you have to actually go out on the field and WIN in real life. there are teams who are doing that more than lsu. why are you ok with that?

i'm curious how long you will continue to avoid answering the question.

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You just don't find that type of consistency anywhere in college baseball

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you're wrong. there are several programs who are actually WINNING CWS GAMES more consistently than lsu. lsu is BARELY in the top 10 in this regard. why are you ok with that? there's no rational reason for it.

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I don't think you realize how much the bats have affected the sport as well as how much more talent these schools from around the country have.

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who's fault is that when you have CLEARLY the biggest budget in college baseball? why are other schools not having to moan about the "bats" and actually win at the cws?

let's see you answer those two questions. this ought to be enlightening.