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re: Fisher was negotiating but Jindal decided to keep Miles.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:20 am to peanuts4brainz
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:20 am to peanuts4brainz
How's that presidential campaign going, Piyush...oh, wait a minute.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:35 pm to El Magnifico
The years you have stated are not sub par years for LSU football, look back in history and you will learn.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:48 pm to TXGunslinger10
While it could have been handled better, firing a shitty head coach is not pulling a Julius Caesar
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:02 pm to ExpoTiger
Look back on Saban's record at LSU, the joke is on you.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:17 pm to speckhead
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The years you have stated are not sub par years for LSU football, look back in history and you will learn.
You could look back at the history of every team and find an era that they were terrible. Even Bama had some horrible stretches.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:33 pm to AshLSU
From Warchant.com
Curious folks over there in Baton Rouge, La.
For more than a week, the loose lips at LSU apparently leaked information to every reporter who asked that Les Miles was out as the Tigers' head coach and that Jimbo Fisher was their No. 1 target.
Then when that didn't happen, they now are leaking information to reporters that they were in the middle of negotiations with Fisher's representatives when power brokers at the highest levels called the deal off.
If Jimbo Fisher's agent was in negotiations with LSU, apparently no one ever told FSU.
According to a report in The Advocate newspaper in Baton Rouge, four different unnamed sources confirmed that talks were ongoing between Fisher's "intermediaries" and LSU's "intermediaries" before LSU President F. King Alexander and other high-ranking officials pulled the plug.
The alleged reason? "Sticker shock" when they realized that the whole deal would cost them more than $30 million -- $17 million to buy out Miles and his staff, $5 million for Fisher's buyout and then an annual contract of more than $5 million a year for Fisher.
"Ultimately, the overwhelming monetary figure to secure both deals concerned the school's president and others at a time when the state and school are experiencing budget struggles," the article states. "The final price tag to part ways with Miles and hire Fisher was more than $30 million. The figure "shocked" Alexander and other officials."
Come again?
None of these numbers were top secret. They all are part of public records. They had been reported by virtually every media outlet who published stories based on the original leaks. But we're supposed to believe that LSU's president had no idea how much this thing would cost?
That is ludicrous.
To believe that, you'd have to believe that the university president was in the dark about all of this from the very beginning. And if that's true, then who exactly authorized any of these "intermediaries" to negotiate with Jimbo Fisher?
We're not talking about firing a tennis or golf coach. If you're going to fire the head football coach at LSU -- a guy who has won a national title -- you're not going to do that without the university president's blessing. And if you don't have that blessing, then what kind of "negotiations" can you really be having?
To put it bluntly, nothing that has come out of Baton Rouge on this story makes any freakin' sense.
My guess is the Miles firing was never close to a done deal. I think some boosters with deep pockets (and big mouths) wanted Miles gone, and they wanted Fisher to take his place. I believe someone from that group reached out to Fisher's agent, Jimmy Sexton, and asked if there would be interest if the LSU job came open.
At that point, one of two things happened: Either Fisher's people said no, or the political heat on LSU for running off Miles got too hot. Whatever the case, this whole fire was probably extinguished before it was much of a spark -- certainly before any real negotiations had taken place.
I don't blame the Baton Rouge media for reporting what sources are telling them. But this version of the events simply doesn't add up. And it doesn't jibe with what we've heard from our sources at FSU, either.
If Fisher was in "negotiations" with LSU, it's a very safe bet that Sexton would have let Florida State's administration know at some point. That is, after all, how you play the game -- and no one plays it better than Sexton. Even if Fisher had no interest, his agent certainly would want FSU to know he was being courted. At the very least, it would be a chance to show how loyal he is, if not for use as a bargaining chip.
But in conversations with high-ranking folks at FSU, I was told the school's officials were never once contacted by anyone about Fisher being a candidate at LSU. Not by Sexton. Not by Fisher. And not by anyone at LSU. As of Friday afternoon, they insisted they still have never heard anything credible about Fisher being offered the job or being in negotiations.
In fact, as our Gene Williams posted back when these rumors first surfaced, we were told FSU President John Thrasher reached out to Fisher to see if there was anything to the reports. And Thrasher left that conversation feeling confident there was nothing to worry about.
Is it possible that all of our sources at FSU are misleading us?
Maybe. If you've been in this business for more than a minute, you learn not to take anything at face value.
But I think what we've been told makes a lot more sense than the twisted logic coming out of Tiger town.
If you're asking me, no, I don't believe Jimbo Fisher's agent was ever in negotiations with LSU. Is it possible that someone called him? Sure. But the term "negotiation" implies an offer and genuine interest on both sides -- and I'm not convinced of either.
What I do believe is some big-money boosters at LSU had a plan. And they were so excited about that plan that they not only put the cart before the horse, but they ran the poor thing over. And now they're trying to clean up the mess.
Contact Warchant managing editor Ira Schoffel at ira@warchant.com and follow @IraSchoffel on Twitter.
Curious folks over there in Baton Rouge, La.
For more than a week, the loose lips at LSU apparently leaked information to every reporter who asked that Les Miles was out as the Tigers' head coach and that Jimbo Fisher was their No. 1 target.
Then when that didn't happen, they now are leaking information to reporters that they were in the middle of negotiations with Fisher's representatives when power brokers at the highest levels called the deal off.
If Jimbo Fisher's agent was in negotiations with LSU, apparently no one ever told FSU.
According to a report in The Advocate newspaper in Baton Rouge, four different unnamed sources confirmed that talks were ongoing between Fisher's "intermediaries" and LSU's "intermediaries" before LSU President F. King Alexander and other high-ranking officials pulled the plug.
The alleged reason? "Sticker shock" when they realized that the whole deal would cost them more than $30 million -- $17 million to buy out Miles and his staff, $5 million for Fisher's buyout and then an annual contract of more than $5 million a year for Fisher.
"Ultimately, the overwhelming monetary figure to secure both deals concerned the school's president and others at a time when the state and school are experiencing budget struggles," the article states. "The final price tag to part ways with Miles and hire Fisher was more than $30 million. The figure "shocked" Alexander and other officials."
Come again?
None of these numbers were top secret. They all are part of public records. They had been reported by virtually every media outlet who published stories based on the original leaks. But we're supposed to believe that LSU's president had no idea how much this thing would cost?
That is ludicrous.
To believe that, you'd have to believe that the university president was in the dark about all of this from the very beginning. And if that's true, then who exactly authorized any of these "intermediaries" to negotiate with Jimbo Fisher?
We're not talking about firing a tennis or golf coach. If you're going to fire the head football coach at LSU -- a guy who has won a national title -- you're not going to do that without the university president's blessing. And if you don't have that blessing, then what kind of "negotiations" can you really be having?
To put it bluntly, nothing that has come out of Baton Rouge on this story makes any freakin' sense.
My guess is the Miles firing was never close to a done deal. I think some boosters with deep pockets (and big mouths) wanted Miles gone, and they wanted Fisher to take his place. I believe someone from that group reached out to Fisher's agent, Jimmy Sexton, and asked if there would be interest if the LSU job came open.
At that point, one of two things happened: Either Fisher's people said no, or the political heat on LSU for running off Miles got too hot. Whatever the case, this whole fire was probably extinguished before it was much of a spark -- certainly before any real negotiations had taken place.
I don't blame the Baton Rouge media for reporting what sources are telling them. But this version of the events simply doesn't add up. And it doesn't jibe with what we've heard from our sources at FSU, either.
If Fisher was in "negotiations" with LSU, it's a very safe bet that Sexton would have let Florida State's administration know at some point. That is, after all, how you play the game -- and no one plays it better than Sexton. Even if Fisher had no interest, his agent certainly would want FSU to know he was being courted. At the very least, it would be a chance to show how loyal he is, if not for use as a bargaining chip.
But in conversations with high-ranking folks at FSU, I was told the school's officials were never once contacted by anyone about Fisher being a candidate at LSU. Not by Sexton. Not by Fisher. And not by anyone at LSU. As of Friday afternoon, they insisted they still have never heard anything credible about Fisher being offered the job or being in negotiations.
In fact, as our Gene Williams posted back when these rumors first surfaced, we were told FSU President John Thrasher reached out to Fisher to see if there was anything to the reports. And Thrasher left that conversation feeling confident there was nothing to worry about.
Is it possible that all of our sources at FSU are misleading us?
Maybe. If you've been in this business for more than a minute, you learn not to take anything at face value.
But I think what we've been told makes a lot more sense than the twisted logic coming out of Tiger town.
If you're asking me, no, I don't believe Jimbo Fisher's agent was ever in negotiations with LSU. Is it possible that someone called him? Sure. But the term "negotiation" implies an offer and genuine interest on both sides -- and I'm not convinced of either.
What I do believe is some big-money boosters at LSU had a plan. And they were so excited about that plan that they not only put the cart before the horse, but they ran the poor thing over. And now they're trying to clean up the mess.
Contact Warchant managing editor Ira Schoffel at ira@warchant.com and follow @IraSchoffel on Twitter.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:48 pm to Fsuguy1
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The alleged reason? "Sticker shock" when they realized that the whole deal would cost them more than $30 million -- $17 million to buy out Miles and his staff, $5 million for Fisher's buyout and then an annual contract of more than $5 million a year for Fisher.
"Ultimately, the overwhelming monetary figure to secure both deals concerned the school's president and others at a time when the state and school are experiencing budget struggles," the article states. "The final price tag to part ways with Miles and hire Fisher was more than $30 million. The figure "shocked" Alexander and other officials."
Come again?
None of these numbers were top secret. They all are part of public records. They had been reported by virtually every media outlet who published stories based on the original leaks. But we're supposed to believe that LSU's president had no idea how much this thing would cost?
This is a reporter extrapolating too much in that part. The cost wasn't even close to $30mm.
I'm not completely disregarding your source, but I think it's misguided to suggest that there wasn't mutual interest based on this angle. Why Jimbo hasn't gotten a raise yet, I don't know. The lack of an announcement doesn't really prove anything, since LSU boosters absolutely reached out to Sexton 100%, so the cat is already out of the bag if he wants to use it as a bargaining chip. If anything, it suggests that they were playing it as close to the chest as possible due to the sensitivity of the whole situation. After all, Jimbo had a game to play and the vacancy wasn't technically open.
This is absolute speculation, but part of me thinks this could be an extension of goodwill on the part of Sexton and/or Fisher since he got a raise so recently. It's a pretty unique situation overall, and maybe they have an incentive to keep this whole thing under wraps, both in their relationship with FSU and LSU. At the very least, Fisher's brand equity was enhanced without him having to do anything. A high profile program just tried to shell out a bunch of cash to fire a man, who some ignorantly believe to be an elite coach, in order to get him.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:52 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Dear D.A s on this board get a life ! we have a great coach !
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:06 pm to Fsuguy1
If you're wanting specific details to come out regarding Jimbo as an official announcement, don't hold your breath.
Nobody from the LSU side is going to do anything further to burn that bridge. Everyone here should just hope our job opens before Alabama's.
FSU officials need to feel that their program's image isn't damaged from this, so they have gone out of their way to discredit what happened. And FTR, there just isn't much difference b/w the 2 programs, except conference, money, competition for recruits, and personally, a new start for him and his wife's separate lives, given the circumstances.
Nobody from the LSU side is going to do anything further to burn that bridge. Everyone here should just hope our job opens before Alabama's.
FSU officials need to feel that their program's image isn't damaged from this, so they have gone out of their way to discredit what happened. And FTR, there just isn't much difference b/w the 2 programs, except conference, money, competition for recruits, and personally, a new start for him and his wife's separate lives, given the circumstances.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:02 pm to peanuts4brainz
Fisher wasn't negotiating, the deal was done until King squashed it.

Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:10 pm to Mulerider
The entire program can use an overhauling. They all need to ride off into the sun together.Can we get some public outcry about how bad they all are from President to coaches? Can't believe the media made this decision.
Maybe the media can help us unfck this situation. It is fcked up that the show of respect for miles by peers, some fans, and media, who needs a clown to talk about after losing Spurrier, was mistaken for support to keep him.
Maybe the media can help us unfck this situation. It is fcked up that the show of respect for miles by peers, some fans, and media, who needs a clown to talk about after losing Spurrier, was mistaken for support to keep him.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:11 pm to peanuts4brainz
until Fisher says something, I refuse to believe any of this
Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:16 pm to peanuts4brainz
LET IT GO MFRS!!!!
JEEZ
JEEZ
Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:45 pm to peanuts4brainz
What "sources"?
Why can't they be named?
I despise secrets!!!!!
Why can't they be named?
I despise secrets!!!!!
Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:47 pm to peanuts4brainz
It was a black ops...
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:05 pm to 1999
Yall think everybody is pissed off now, just wait until we finish 8-4 in 2016, (With loses to the A's again) and the Offense is looking exactly the same!
No more leeway for error. The rope is extremely short and the villagers want justice!

No more leeway for error. The rope is extremely short and the villagers want justice!
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:22 pm to SammyTiger
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2011 was the last time Jindal paid attention to LSU or the State.
Screw JB Edwarss
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:56 pm to wahoocs
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FSU officials need to feel that their program's image isn't damaged from this, so they have gone out of their way to discredit what happened. And FTR, there just isn't much difference b/w the 2 programs, except conference, money, competition for recruits, and personally, a new start for him and his wife's separate lives, given the circumstances.
FSU is a scandal machine. Last I heard they were up to 20 covered up on campus rapes and it might go north of 100 and include athletics program.
I think Fisher might be trying to get out from under a possible investigation.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:35 pm to Fsuguy1
I've been saying Jimbo was never contacted. Nor was Sexton but I was told I was lying. Lol.
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