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re: First time I can remember just watching the OLine in a game. They are totally confused
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:03 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:03 pm to AlaTiger
We are currently 27th in the country in % of plays called being passing. We are currently 34th in passing plays resulting in a sack.
We call passing plays more than most teams and still have a low % of those plays resulting in sacks(and that's with playing 2 good front 7s in clemson and uf).
Our oline needs to gell. It's a sign of inexperience when they are having trouble passing guys off to each other. Our oline is no where near as bad as the rant says they are. At least at pass protection.
Run blocking is a little harder to judge since we don't know the play calls and don't know if the rb should be reading blocks inside to out or outside to in.
Anyone that thought there would be zero issues while replacing one of the most experiences lines in all of cfb just doesn't understand football.
We call passing plays more than most teams and still have a low % of those plays resulting in sacks(and that's with playing 2 good front 7s in clemson and uf).
Our oline needs to gell. It's a sign of inexperience when they are having trouble passing guys off to each other. Our oline is no where near as bad as the rant says they are. At least at pass protection.
Run blocking is a little harder to judge since we don't know the play calls and don't know if the rb should be reading blocks inside to out or outside to in.
Anyone that thought there would be zero issues while replacing one of the most experiences lines in all of cfb just doesn't understand football.
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Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:14 pm to docTQ4
So, you saying he plays lazy ?
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:32 pm to LSU Neil
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All the other teams seem to be able to figure it out. Guess we got the one guy that does not know how to teach
This is the frustrating part. Said it after game 1 we will be talking about this 8 to 10 weeks later that the Oline still can run block or even protect. Hell they couldnt do it last year with guys that had been on the roster for years. Jayden Daniels Probably got B Davis an extra two years with his running ability.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:37 pm to FLObserver
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Oline still can run block or even protect. Hell they couldnt do it last year with guys that had been on the roster for years.
We were 9th in the country in qb sack % last year. this notion that we couldn't pass protect last year or this year isn't backed up by actual facts.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:50 pm to saturncube21
In summary, yes. I think that is a fair assessment lol
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:44 pm to AlaTiger
If Sam Pittman is available at the end of this season, consider hiring him as the OL coach next season.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:49 pm to NOBigEZ
It’s coaching guys, they are still not picking up twist and stunts, that can’t be happening 4 games in.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 9:47 pm to AlaTiger
They will get better.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:08 pm to FreddieMac
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They will get better.
When?
Posted on 9/22/25 at 12:33 am to TutHillTiger
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they are still not picking up twist and stunts, that can’t be happening 4 games in.
It's the 4th game the majority of this very inexperienced line has played together.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 12:41 am to Rickdaddy4188
The thing is Brad Davis is one of the best recruiters and most beloved members of the staff. Is there any way to get an analyst who’s an oline guru to come help him coach the guys up? Like a Pete Jenkins for the o line. I think that losing Brad will have repercussions we’d rather avoid.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 12:52 am to Sofaking2
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I watched that stunt and they blamed Westin Davis for not picking up the guy stunting to the inside of the guard. Honestly, I’m not sure that’s his job? I’ve seen many lineman swap those blocks where the guard picks up the defensive end stunting inside of him. It’s an easier pass block for him than asking Davis to come all the way inside from his tackle position. Davis would take that defensive tackle stunting to the outside. I know it takes a lot of practice to get that right.
They blamed Davis because he didnt pinch in towards Thompson closing down the DT that was trying to split both of them. It left Thompson to pick up the block and the DE came around free. They didnt expect Davis to step inside the guard. They expected both of them to pass off their assignments and Davis didn't do a thing when the DE wrapped around on the stunt. He sat and watched, leaving Josh Thompson blocking the DT that was attempting to split them.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 1:09 am to AlaTiger
Agree to disagree....it is all about coaching....look at last year could not run block with an abundance of talent and experience.....the OL coach should be at Florida with Billy....
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:17 am to AlaTiger
they ran stunts into our pass pro slides....simple put a blocking back to check A gap
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:31 am to AlaTiger
talented team, but man they are poorly coached
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:48 am to AlaTiger
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It’s not that they can’t block. It’s that they don’t know what they’re doing, they aren’t picking up blitzes, they aren’t holding their blocks, the RBs are going the wrong way.
I heard on a local radio station just last week that each starting lineman graded out high when performing one on one drills in spring camp, but somehow, can’t turn those individual strengths into cohesion as a unit.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 10:36 am to NOBigEZ
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If Sam Pittman is available at the end of this season, consider hiring him as the OL coach next season.
He may just retire. He’s had some health issues with his back or hips and has evidently had a hard time getting around for a couple of years. That may not be the best situation for a position coach we need teaching guys hands-on.
Atkins will likely get a look for the role already bent on-staff. It’s much easier to find a TE coach and he’s also been a very good OL recruiter, overall. He may have been the scapegoat at FSU, but they had a lot more problems than just his OL.
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/22/25 at 10:39 am to AlaTiger
Weston Davis just looks clueless at RT. He was getting dominated by Southeastern defensive lineman.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:00 am to AlaTiger
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This isn’t about talent. Its execution, game plan, coaching, and scheme. I hope this gets fixed, but I’m starting to be concerned. We’re 4 games in.
I wonder if part of the issue is that Sloan (and Atkins by virtue of whatever new elements he’s brought to the run game) are putting too much on a new OL. We run some zone. We run some gap scheme with guys pulling now. We’ve added counter. We’ve added I looks and more under Center. We run more Pistol this year, but only run a small number of predictable plays out of it. We’ve got WRs heavily involved in run blocking and not always doing the best job. We’ve got Durham playing guessing games on where run plays are going now. It’s kind of the Gary Crowton problem- too much bullshite with nothing to truly hang your hat on.
If there is this much confusion in-game, it seems like a little simplification is in order to get better execution. We don’t see the run plays that have had some success near enough to build off of them. We don’t run enough of any one thing to have a chance to be good at it.
One more note on this- if you go back and watch the film studies online after the Clemson game, there were issues with missed blocks and not getting great push, and Davis was the worst of the group, but the overall organization and picking up assignments was better than the last 3 weeks. But Kelly told us multiple times they spent the entire offseason preparing for that game.
We don’t have an offseason to prepare for anyone else and there has been a significant drop off in overall organization, besides Davis’ obvious struggles, since game 1. That’s definitely a coaching problem. Unfortunately, the SLU game was a great opportunity to work on simplifying and it looks like it was wasted doing the same kinds of things.
Our 23 defense didn’t have the talent level that this OL does, but they were also wildly over-coached by House to do things they obviously couldn’t handle, and that just made everything far worse. Even if this OL has some talent, if they are being asked to do too much too soon, they will have no real chance of success and it will just breed frustration.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:05 am to LSU Neil
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All the other teams seem to be able to figure it out.
You mean like Florida, Oklahoma, Bama and South Carolina? Look at their stats and come back and tell me if they have it figured out? Hell if OU and the Cocks didn't have their QB's rushing all over the place they would be even worse than us.
Now does that make it o.k.? Not to me but don't say things like everybody else has it figured out when that ain't true.
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