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re: Finebaum "Saban Built the Program LSU has Today"
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:20 pm to RTRroundbowldownhole
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:20 pm to RTRroundbowldownhole
saban will not win another title at alabama. He is another bob stoops. Losing games he has no buisness losing.
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:24 pm to Geaux Tahel
I think that Saban served a purpose in getting discipline in the LSU program-----but GD did not leave the program in total shambles.
LSU did as much to make Saban as Saban did to make LSU. Both mutually prospered from the arrangement.
However, when Saban left for Miami after leading the fan base to believe he would stay at LSU stuck a dagger in our hearts------on Christmas Eve none-the-less.
All I see when I look at Saban is a very short man who manipulated the contract negotiations at the fan base's emotional expense.
His inflated ego did not allow him to accept any blame for the LSU loss---it was his players' fault (Field goal kicker and punt returner).
LSU did as much to make Saban as Saban did to make LSU. Both mutually prospered from the arrangement.
However, when Saban left for Miami after leading the fan base to believe he would stay at LSU stuck a dagger in our hearts------on Christmas Eve none-the-less.
All I see when I look at Saban is a very short man who manipulated the contract negotiations at the fan base's emotional expense.
His inflated ego did not allow him to accept any blame for the LSU loss---it was his players' fault (Field goal kicker and punt returner).
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:27 pm to JJ27
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Saban absolutely built LSU's program to what it is today. Conversely, Miles built Oklahoma State to what it is today. Either way, Miles is pretty damn good.
I have thought about this but i didn't get it right. When miles got ther okie state was 4-7 and turned it into a winning program. The difference is miles didn't have mark emmerett. After miles left okie state (winning i might add), they finally got serious when t-boone pickens donated 300 million.
Who is responsible for okie state? les miles.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:45 pm to dreaux
Gundy was the guest commentator on ESPN on their off week. When someone brought up that Les Miles had a lot to do with the resurgence of their football program, Gundy rolled his eyes.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:45 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
if saban is so great, why does his whole coaching tree look like complete dogshit right now?
Matter of fact, if he was the best coach "hands down" like everyone proclaims, why is he so average with average players? or equal talent in the NFL?
Matter of fact, if he was the best coach "hands down" like everyone proclaims, why is he so average with average players? or equal talent in the NFL?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:46 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Gundy was the guest commentator on ESPN on their off week. When someone brought up that Les Miles had a lot to do with the resurgence of their football program, Gundy rolled his eyes.
wasn't gundy miles OC?
I hope we play them so miles can whip dat arse!!!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:55 pm to dreaux
thats a dumb opinion
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:01 pm to josh336
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thats a dumb opinion
which one? surely you are not taking all this serious are you?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:02 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Gundy was the guest commentator on ESPN on their off week. When someone brought up that Les Miles had a lot to do with the resurgence of their football program, Gundy rolled his eyes.
nobody likes living in shadows. Gundy can get away with rolling his eyes at miles.
For now.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:12 pm to geauxgeebs
haha saban won with inferior talent. the sec west was a joke while he was here. people give him way too much credit.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:18 pm to dreaux
Saban laid the foundation, but after all of his players were gone and Miles had his worst season as HC (Dual D-Coordinators) Miles could have lost the program. He hired well, recruited well, and the players bought into his system.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:20 pm to Mulat
Well he brought in some good recruits and won a a good bit of games plus a championship, but I'm sure Les would have done the same if he came when Saban did.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:27 pm to Mulat
saban only brought back waut hallman and dinardo broke down.....
i see a much smoother program with miles than saban.......by far.....
saban lost to mid tenn st was it when he was here?
saban lost to ulm at bama?.......come on man!!
he lost to an underdog iowa team at lsu in a bowl and lost to utah at bama...........come on man......!!! saban got a rep for recruiting but his teams brain fart alot.......i suspect many of sabans players hate him alot like players at lsu did......
he screwed bama out of victory on sat cause miles out coached him which wasnt really all that hard to do.......
i see a much smoother program with miles than saban.......by far.....
saban lost to mid tenn st was it when he was here?
saban lost to ulm at bama?.......come on man!!
he lost to an underdog iowa team at lsu in a bowl and lost to utah at bama...........come on man......!!! saban got a rep for recruiting but his teams brain fart alot.......i suspect many of sabans players hate him alot like players at lsu did......
he screwed bama out of victory on sat cause miles out coached him which wasnt really all that hard to do.......
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 10:34 pm to BlackRaven
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saban lost to mid tenn st was it when he was here?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:02 am to Y.A. Tittle
Saban is alot like the character Richard Widmark played in the movie "THE BEDFORD INCIDENT". If you haven't seen that movie you should check it out. A good movie by the way.
Buz
Buz
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:31 am to pointman
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From what I understand Skip Bergman hired Saban. Bergman built the program. I could be wrong.
"Bergman"?????
Skip Bertman was the baseball coach when Saban was hired.
How old are you?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:43 am to Mulat
Actually, he had lots of great ideas for LSU... but TAF donation money actually paid for it and an engineering firm built it.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:56 am to Y.A. Tittle
One of Saban's finest losses here was UAB.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:33 am to Red Stick Tigress
It's crazy how much we hated Miles after the Ole Mrs. game and the Tenn shannanagans.
I love him again. Amazing how W's can do that to the coach fan relationship.
I love him again. Amazing how W's can do that to the coach fan relationship.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:38 am to Meaux Bettah
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It's crazy how much we hated Miles after the Ole Mrs. game and the Tenn shannanagans.
I love him again. Amazing how W's can do that to the coach fan relationship.
It's all about expectations and wins. Miles always had the room to win back the fanbase, though expectations are extremely high here and it was difficult. He pretty much has done it in one year
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 1:39 am
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