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re: Finebaum on First Take
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:35 pm to Paddyshack
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:35 pm to Paddyshack
frick big ears nobody cares
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:36 pm to Goldrush25
quote:How many college quarterbacks are three or more year starters? Very fricking few
I mean he is. We have one more year of Burrow
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:36 pm to Paddyshack
I guess PF thinks LSU plays the game with only one player and everyone else plays with 22
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:36 pm to BDJ
bdg what baldy and you think only matters to people dont know better !
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:37 pm to timm6971463
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lunatic your handle fits you!
You're welcome to refute anything I say. That's what a discussion is supposed to be about.
As for being a lunatic, shite I'm calm now.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:38 pm to Goldrush25
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I mean he is. We have one more year of Burrow and then after that we're back at square one. At some point you have to develop your own QB.
If he is a temporary fix than so too is Tua. Both will be the starter of their teams this year and next. Burrow will graduate and Tua will leave early.
Cole Tracy is the only truly "temporary fix" we have (and he's awesome!)
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:42 pm to ROPO
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If he is a temporary fix than so too is Tua. Both will be the starter of their teams this year and next. Burrow will graduate and Tua will leave early.
C'mon man. Did Saban go out and get a redshirt Junior that was developed by another coaching staff because he didn't have a capable QB on the team? That's ridiculous.
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Cole Tracy is the only truly "temporary fix" we have (and he's awesome!)
It's literally the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:43 pm to El Magnifico
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How many college quarterbacks are three or more year starters? Very fricking few
Do people really not understand the point here?
The term "temporary fix" is referring to the fact that's he's a transfer not developed by our staff, not referring to how long he's going to be a starter for us.
Whether a QB starts 1 year or 4 years for you, if you're developing them you're never left in a bind. There's always someone behind him that can approximate the previous QB's production.
If you can't develop them then you're either at the whim of the transfer market or you're going to be doomed to have shitty QB play.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:44 pm to ROPO
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If he is a temporary fix than so too is Tua.
No.
Grabbing transfers is not sustainable. Developing them in your system is. Bama has proven they can do this, thus their QB is not a temporary fix.
At the moment Burrow is a temporary fix, but that does not mean that LSU will be unable to develop QBs going forward under the current staff. We'll find out if they can do it in the post Burrow era and that will show if Burrow was a temporary fix or not.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:44 pm to Paddyshack
Name 1 team that would welcome a game against LSU right now, even knowing the stats.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:50 pm to bencoleman
Ask Finebaum, if you have 2 alternating Quarterbacks, you have a QB problem.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:52 pm to Goldrush25
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At some point you have to develop your own QB.
LOL, just like how Saban developed the true freshman in High School.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:57 pm to sicboy
Saban has only had 2 QB drafted since he’s been at Bama
LSU has had 2 also in the same time span.
So is Bama really “developing” QBs or just putting ultra talented players around very average QBs?
LSU has had 2 also in the same time span.
So is Bama really “developing” QBs or just putting ultra talented players around very average QBs?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:00 pm to CalTiger53
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just like how Saban developed the true freshman in High School.
Exactly. Did the LSU coaching staff under Orgeron's leadership recruit or develop Burrow?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:02 pm to TigerLunatik
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I wonder how many of those incompletions have been throw aways to avoid a sack or worse.
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That really doesn't matter
To judge a QB simply by completion percentage and not take into account throw aways (due to an inept offensive line) and drops (due to inept receivers), is not a fair representation of a quarterbacks skill.
A throw away may be a good play by the QB. A dropped ball may be a good play by the QB. The circumstances matter.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:04 pm to KC Tiger
I guess I didn't word my post properly. I meant as far as the overall offense. I think Burrow is an accurate QB and that the low completion percentage is on the entire offense. So throw aways and drops don't matter in that sense.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:05 pm to Paddyshack
Explain where he be wrong, please.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:06 pm to CalTiger53
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LOL, just like how Saban developed the true freshman in High School.
When Orgeron lands the #1 QB in the nation for us we can revisit our need to develop QBs.
I suspect Tua has benefited greatly from being under Dan Enos's tutelage.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:13 pm to sunnydaze
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So is Bama really “developing” QBs
Yes. They are maxing out the capabilities of the guys at the position. You can be a good college QB without being a pro.
Take any coach who's had sustained success. They find guys and coach them up within their system. There wasn't a system in place to identify, develop QBs and put them in successful situations towards the end of the previous regime. That's basically why there's a new coach.
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putting ultra talented players around very average QBs?
If that's all it took, LSU would never have a QB problem.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:13 pm to Goldrush25
I like Burrow and think he has done a decent job. But who are we kidding? There is a reason he is here and not at OSU starting for them and I think we're seeing why.
I don't care what his completion % is as long as he wins and he certainly isn't getting any help from a patchwork line and receivers who can't get separation.
Maybe he is better than what he appears but so far he's been pedestrian like DE was last year.
We simply do not know what the frick we are doing with QBs and out offensive system does not play to their strong points.
I don't care what his completion % is as long as he wins and he certainly isn't getting any help from a patchwork line and receivers who can't get separation.
Maybe he is better than what he appears but so far he's been pedestrian like DE was last year.
We simply do not know what the frick we are doing with QBs and out offensive system does not play to their strong points.
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