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Finebaum on First Take
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:41 am
Roast me if you want for watching.
Stephen A asked him what was going on with LSU and how far could they go with a QB completing 49%?
Paul's response was "not very far". And that poor QB play was Miles' undoing, to be determined for Orgeron. Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
Never change, Paul.
Stephen A asked him what was going on with LSU and how far could they go with a QB completing 49%?
Paul's response was "not very far". And that poor QB play was Miles' undoing, to be determined for Orgeron. Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
Never change, Paul.
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:43 am to Paddyshack
There is another.
His name is know throughout sports forums.
...Peter
His name is know throughout sports forums.
...Peter
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:43 am to Paddyshack
he's a joke. not surprised ever when he starts talking shite about us.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:44 am to Paddyshack
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Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
I mean he is. We have one more year of Burrow and then after that we're back at square one. At some point you have to develop your own QB.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:44 am to Paddyshack
His opinion is worth about as much as a mud pie.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:45 am to Paddyshack
But when Jarrett Stidham goes 16/28 with 1 TD, 2 INTs and a 50.1 QBR - at home - it's just because he had a bad game.
I don't expect the media to change their view of LSU and honestly, I don't want them to.
I don't expect the media to change their view of LSU and honestly, I don't want them to.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:45 am to Paddyshack
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a QB completing 49%
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poor QB play was Miles' undoing
I hate Paul as much as the next baw, but his comments aren't entirely wrong...
That said, our team is doing what it needs to do to win games and we are sitting pretty at #5. I could give a shite about completion stats if we keep a goose-egg in that L column.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:46 am to Goldrush25
Exactly. I think he was 100% correct from what we've seen so far.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:50 am to Paddyshack
Stephen A is the smartest sports pundit in the history of sports pundits...if you do not believe me, just ask him.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:50 am to NFLSU
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But when Jarrett Stidham goes 16/28 with 1 TD, 2 INTs and a 50.1 QBR - at home - it's just because he had a bad game.
I don't expect the media to change their view of LSU and honestly, I don't want them to.
Man, be objective.
Stidham has a body of work that shows he is better than that performance. Burrow doesn't have that yet.
I love Burrow, but he still has a lot to prove.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:51 am to Goldrush25
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I mean he is.
How is he a "temporary fix" when he's completing 49% for a team not going very far?
That's contradictory in itself.
My point was that they aren't acknowledging LSU as a team, the question was centered around Burrow completing 49%. I wonder how many of those incompletions have been throw aways to avoid a sack or worse.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:52 am to LSUStar
Actually, when he’s not ‘in character’, he’s pretty intelligent and I find myself agreeing with a lot of his ‘takes’
However, sometimes I watch him and I just want to put my fist through my TV... it’s almost as if ESPN pushes him into a character for TV purposes
However, sometimes I watch him and I just want to put my fist through my TV... it’s almost as if ESPN pushes him into a character for TV purposes
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:53 am to TigerLunatik
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I think he was 100% correct from what we've seen so far.
Of course you would, 100% correct:
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Paul's response was "not very far"
What is "very far"? A top five ranking with a win on the road against one of his darlings?
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Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
What college QB is NOT a temporary fix if Burreaux is one?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:54 am to Paddyshack
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I wonder how many of those incompletions have been throw aways to avoid a sack or worse.
That really doesn't matter. It's still in incompletion and if it's 3rd down, it's still a punt. It's better than a turnover obviously, but 49% completion isn't going to help improve the 3rd down conversion rate either. Receivers not getting open and bad protection is all part of it.
Eta: Obviously this isn't worded properly. I was talking about the overall offense, not just Burrow. I think Burrow is an accurate QB. I was saying the completion percentage needs to get better for the offense to get us where we want to be.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:54 am to Tiger Ree
What I think He means by temporary fix is that we haven’t been able to develop QBs and Burrow will be here 2 years and when he’s gone we’ll be back to our undeveloped QBs.
Like Mett was a bandaid between the JJ/JL mess and Harris and Jennings and Etling.
Opposed to teams that have had a string of QBs they’ve developed and replaces over the years.
Like Mett was a bandaid between the JJ/JL mess and Harris and Jennings and Etling.
Opposed to teams that have had a string of QBs they’ve developed and replaces over the years.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:55 am to Paddyshack
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Stephen A asked him what was going on with LSU and how far could they go with a QB completing 49%?
Paul's response was "not very far". And that poor QB play was Miles' undoing, to be determined for Orgeron. Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
That's not far off. In Mauk's and Flynn's championship years were 64% and 56%. And in 2011 both Lee and Jefferson had good completion % at 62% and 61%.
Burrow has attempted 106 passes this season. Maybe if a couple of the drops were hauled in perhaps he's in the very low 50's. But if he continues to hover around 50% it could be the undoing against great teams like UGA or Bama. It's enough to beat teams like Ole Miss, Ark, etc.... but it might be just short of being elite. All that said, I want to be wrong and to have this post "not age well." Geaux Tigers
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:56 am to Goldrush25
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I mean he is. We have one more year of Burrow and then after that we're back at square one. At some point you have to develop your own QB.
I mean how many teams out there have the same starting qb for longer than 2 years? Would that mean Brennan who will have at most 2 years of eligibility left a temporary fix too?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:57 am to TheCaterpillar
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Stidham has a body of work that shows he is better than that performance
Here are Stidham's 2017 stats vs LSU
9/26
165 yards
1 TD
19.5 QBR
People forget that Joe Burrow has been with this team for like 3 months
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:58 am to Tiger Ree
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Of course you would, 100% correct:
Dumbass
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What is "very far"? A top five ranking with a win on the road against one of his darlings?
It's about the end of the season, not where they are now. No one said he wasn't going to improve or can't improve. You are so insistent on making everything about hating Orgeron and the team that you fail to let common sense enter the conversation.
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What college QB is NOT a temporary fix if Burreaux is one?
Every one that is recruited and developed by that team's current coaching staff. Congrats on going 0/3 on your reply.
Eta: I even included "from what we've seen so far" in my post to prevent I response like yours.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:00 am to TigerLunatik
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That really doesn't matter. It's still in incompletion and if it's 3rd down, it's still a punt. It's better than a turnover obviously, but 49% completion isn't going to help improve the 3rd down conversion rate either.
Point taken, but if not for some clutch NFL level throws in hostile Jordan Hare, we lose that game. Absolute dimes down the stretch, and still no interceptions through 4 games. That speaks for something.
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Receivers not getting open and bad protection is all part of it.
Agreed, which is why it's not fair to shape the question around Burrow completing 49%.
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