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Finding LSU’s next football coach… in Kingsbury?

Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:37 am
Posted by tiger88
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:37 am
Note: I write the below assuming Miles will depart LSU in some fashion at the end of this season if not the next.

In the upcoming search for LSU’s new fb coach, I think the focus should be on coaches of the near future, not old timers or coaches well placed in programs similarly situated to LSU’s (e.g. Clemson) who, apart from money, will have no incentive to come to LSU.

As most of us would agree, LSU got it right when it hired Nick Saban, not totally unknown at the time, but hardly a household name back in ’99, his last season at Michigan state, where he was the HC for five years. Was landing Saban luck or a highly calculated hire, or both? I would say a little bit of the former and most of the latter.

Look at Saban’s record at Michigan State (and before going to LSU):

1995, 6-5-1
1996, 6-6
1997, 7-5
1998, 6-6
1999, 9-2

The first three years show gradual, if modest, progression. Then look at year 4, a setback…then bam. He suddenly pops on the radar and LSU grabs him!

Who is the next early “pop on the radar?”

I’m not sure, but I’m wondering if it could be Kliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech.

A little bit on Kingsbury:

He played QB for Texas Tech, followed by five years of QB around the NFL and Canadian football leagues, which was then followed by 4 years of coaching in the NFL and one year at college (Texas Tech). He replaced Tuberville at Texas Tech in 2013 (note; Tuberville, a seasoned and known coaching commodity, in his three years at Texas Tech compiled at 20-17 (9-17 conf) record). Kingsbury’s record is as follows:

2013 8-5
2014 4-8*
2015 6-6
*team suffered a rash of injuries

So, so far he is 18-18 (9-17 conf). Last game of the season is against Texas on Thanksgiving day; a Red Raiders win and Kingsbury is at 19 wins (in 3 seasons).

Now, compared with Saban’s first three years of 19-16-1 there is hardly a difference.

Anyway, I think Kingsbury should be given a look.
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 10:39 am
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:38 am to
Big-12 offenses don't work in the SEC, see A&M
Posted by Dr. Huxtable
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Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:38 am to
He played at Tech and loves Tech. Besides that being the reason he wouldn't leave Tech, why the frick would we want Kingsbury?

He can coach offense, that much is true. However, have you seen Tech's defense?
Kingsbury would be a god-awful hire
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62869 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:39 am to
I think even my TTU alum brother in law, who has become a big LSU fan, would consider that a bad move.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278269 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:40 am to
Kingsbury is a fricking joke

not to mention he already makes 3mil a year. so you'd have to increase his salary from that which is laughable
Posted by crawfishcharlie
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Member since Dec 2003
4863 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:41 am to
Just to add...

Saban fond LSU....he had his agent contact LSU not the other way around (at least that's how the story has been told)
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10258 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:41 am to
So, he's regressed. No, sorry you wasted all your time.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:43 am to
quote:

So, he's regressed. No, sorry you wasted all your time.


Saban regressed, too. check the record.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:44 am to


Kingsbury would literally be one of the worst hires we could make.
Posted by StarSaint
lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:45 am to
It would be a miserable hire for LSU.
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1847 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:47 am to
Dude if you think we are complaining about defense now. Natives want a name.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:49 am to
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Anyway, I think Kingsbury should be given a look.


Ok, I've looked. Worst of the last 3 HCs at Texas Tech.

Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:49 am to
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Big-12 offenses don't work in the SEC, see A&M


An offense that can beat 'Bama is just fine with me. See Tex A&M 2012.

Would concede that Kingsbury would need to hire a top DC and be willing to let the latter do his thing.
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:51 am to
quote:

An offense that can beat 'Bama is just fine with me. See Tex A&M 2012.



Oh okay, so his offense beat Bama one time? Fantastic.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Ok, I've looked. Worst of the last three HCs at Texas Tech.



The Red Raiders made their first Associated Press Top 25 debut in the Kingsbury era following a win over TCU on September 12, 2013.[19] It was the earliest a first year coach at Texas Tech achieved a spot in the rankings. Kingsbury also became the first coach in Texas Tech history to start the season 6-0 in their debut season after the Red Raiders defeated Iowa State on October 12, 2013. Following a victory against West Virginia on October 19, 2013, Kingsbury led the Red Raiders to a 7-0 start for only the fourth time in program history. The 10th-place ranking the team received in the BCS also marked the highest the program had been ranked since the 2008 season. With the win over West Virginia, Kliff Kingsbury is the first Big 12 coach to start his career 7-0.[2] The Texas Tech Red Raiders finished Kliff Kingsbury's first year at Texas Tech by losing the last 5 games of the season, finishing the rookie coach's first regular season at 7-5. Tight end Jace Amaro was also named as a Consensus All-American, the first Red Raider to be selected as such since Michael Crabtree in 2008.[20]

Wikipedia
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:58 am to
Id take Leach over Cliff anyday. He wins
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:01 am to
Fantastic. 6-5 on the season, 3-5 in the BIg12.

What a glorious hire that'd be. Don't worry guys, when he was the OC at aTm, they beat Bama once.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:02 am to
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Id take Leach over Cliff anyday. He wins


Your opinion cannot be taken to be in the best interest of LSU, as you are a self-professed Gator fan.

Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
9433 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:03 am to
Such a long thought out post for so many downvotes.
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