re: Farewell Moffitt

Just for the record, I agree with you and think Moffitt is/has been excellent and believe it's a culture problem. From personal talks with Hatch and listening to Jack and Tommy's interviews, they know/pioneer their stuff and the data shows it.

One thing Jack and Tommy talk about is the character index when recruiting players and who to take. I wonder what the data on that is and if there's any indicators of each individual reacting certain ways, specifically to the changes occurring since 2019. Obviously all the change since then affects the culture and everyone reacts accordingly. I could be looking way too far into this.

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LSU has put some of the best athletes into the nfl year after year for the last two decades You really do not know what you’re talking about. You can’t separate one issue from another, and that’s on you

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des4271 is a clown. No sense even responding to him anymore.

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Since you’re the S & C guru, tell me how you would manage getting the excess weight/fat off of Hines, Bradford and Ingram? Being overweight like they are, they aren’t maximizing their abilities with strength, agility explosiveness and endurance wise.

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pretty damn simple, all 3 are strong AF...so you focus on maintaining overall strength(max effort day), add in way more dynamic effort and tons of strongman conditioning while working on improving their 10 yard dash through first step training, ground contact training and stride length trainig using this speed training as our energy system training working our way slowly up in volume as needed to the point where at the end of the summer we are simulating a game with correct rest times and correct conditioning time/distance lengths based on position.

from there to get the fat off is simply diet. small caloric deficit counting all macros like any serious athlete would. You start with 150 min of walking with a vest every morning and slowly as one platueas, you ramp up the walks until you reach 420 min a week total. from there have to decrease calories slowly.

here is the problem though, those guys dont have the discpline to do the above nor the brains to understand why they should be doing those things. This is where culture comes in and currently....our culture fricking sucks dick.

this is what so many on this board do not understand....the amount of work one must put in to be amazing at the SEC level is a 12-14 hour day every week day commitment, plus should be be putting in 4-6 hours minimum on the weekend. this was a huge problem in the baseball program last 2 years under paul btw.

if you would like me to post a simulated schedule lmk.

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I’m in agreement with you, except that during the summer/ off season , Moffitt is the main cog in trying to get the guys to their maximum strength and condition. I know it’s not all his fault. I truly believe certain players aren’t disciplined enough and you can’t control if they go on/off campus and gorge themselves and ruin the regimen that they have in place but it has to be made known that you will pay the price for not following the schedule ( cut their playing time). That’s where the culture comes in, obviously there are no consequences.

Those guys I mentioned may be strong but they aren’t as agile, explosive and have less endurance because of the extra weight. As the game progresses, they will tire quicker and be beat more often. Farrell was overweight bad last year and his endurance was basically nothing, he has lost weight ( still needs to lose weight ) but performs better and his endurance is better.

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no doubt and on the force velocity curve they are weak when it comes to power output and especially when it comes to sustained power output.

but you mentiones consequences....well that is not on tommy. Trust me tommy lets the coaches know who is showing up and who isnt, who is eating correctly and making Body Comp changes. the Coaches see the traqs software LSU uses that shows the numbers and the velocities and they see the bod pod outputs, they know who is doing the things correctly and who isnt

but discpline comes down to the culture set by the head coach. Very few kids are Joey B or Tom Brady in that they will do the work voluntarily. They have to know that there are consequences through playing time and extra mandatory conditioing that will be performed if you do not meet expectations.

my whole point was from the start, Tommy is programming the same as he always has which has proven to be a very very successful way to program. He has evolved and not incorporates strongman, gymnastics, sled work, velocity curves, conjugate programming etc.....so it has nothing to really do with him, its a culture thing.


Now has his message gone Stale...i dunno but that certainly could be a possibility. That is for the new coach to evaluate.

Personally i would like to see Tommy stay on as Director only. Each sport have a specific S&C HC with mutiple Assistants working under them. Let tommy have input with the HCs on who should be hired and who shouldnt and let them do their own programming.

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Moffitt has nothing to do with the effort the players out forth on the field.

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If your full effort doesnt look like full effort because you arent conditioned then yeah he should take blame.

.....or maybe player's full effort wasn't applied to conditioning?
Moffit sets the table, but it's up to the athletes to eat, and the coaches to set the culture to make sure they're hungry.

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Why would a good message become stale? By the time it may become stale, guys are leaving the program. No?

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I dunno if I has or not, but usually it's less a case of the actual message becoming stale and more lack of accountability. It's very very obvious the last two years there is zero accountability. If you don't have that, the message goes stale quickly because most guys are not self disciplined enough to do the things that need be done by themselves.

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The strength coach was here through three NCs. Was it Moffit that changed the practice mentality?
The LSU identity change to soft is fairly evident if one follows coaching change time line.

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THIS! MILES" practices were too Haaard.....

Remember that? Now we get O's soft arse practices and a soft arse team. AS someone else said, "PRACTICE HARD, PLAY HARD".

ETA: We do not practice hard. It carries over to the game.

Remember in 2019 when all of the know it all Steength experts on this horse talked about how great Moffitt was?

This board is infested with mentally ill morons.