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re: Fans booing Jeff when he tried to flip a pass to Ware.

Posted on 11/27/11 at 2:21 am to
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 2:21 am to
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Dude just wins.
2009 called.
Did you take a message? Never mind. I know why it called. It's still looking for a running game. Tell it to call 2011.

Wait, I got a better idea. Let's frick with it a little.

Tell it to call the Terps.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 2:37 am to
Scott, Williams, and Ridley all averaged over 4.5 YPC that year.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 2:53 am to
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Scott, Williams, and Ridley all averaged over 4.5 YPC that year.
I'll let you try again.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 3:08 am to
Are you hoping that the facts will change when I "try again?"

The run game was not the problem. It was quarterback play.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 3:47 am to
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Are you hoping that the facts will change when I "try again?"
No. You made a statement. You were wrong. All three of them did not average over 4.5 YPC.

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The run game was not the problem. It was quarterback play.
We lost four games in 2009.

Florida: LSU's RBs rushed for 54 yards. LSU had 66 total rushing yards.
Jefferson was 11 of 17 (65%) for 96 yards; 0 TDs; 1 Ints; 100.4 QB Rating.

Alabama: LSU's RBs rushed for 91 yards. LSU had 95 total rushing yards.
Jefferson was 10 of 17 (59%) for 114 yards; 1 TDs; 0 Ints; 134.6 QB Rating.
[FTR: Lee was 4 of 10 (40%) for 44 yards; 0 TDs; 1 Ints; 60.0 QB Rating.]

Ole Miss: LSU's RBs rushed for 72 yards. LSU had 40 total rushing yards.
Jefferson was 19 of 37 (51%) for 250 yards; 2 TDs; 1 Ints; 120.1 QB Rating.

Penn State: LSU's RBs rushed for 13 yards. LSU had 41 total rushing yards.
[FTR: Penn State rushed for 124 yards.]
Jefferson was 13 of 24 (54%) for 202 yards; 1 TDs; 1 Ints; 130.3 QB Rating.


In the four losses, LSU did not have a back rush for over 100 yards. In fact, in the four losses, LSU did not rush for over 100 yards and only came close to it once.


Jefferson's completion percentage was over or near 60% in two of the four losses.

He threw for over 200 yards in two of the four losses.

In three of the four losses, Jefferson had a QB Rating over 120, and he had a QB Rating over 130 in two of them.


This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 4:22 am
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 4:43 am to
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He fumbled, threw an interception, and then through a ball up girly style like Drew Brees And what is your point?
Posted by amarti9
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
1060 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 4:56 am to
This thread just goes to show how sad and screwed up Tiger fans priority ares when we are just 1 game away from playing the national title and here we are in a 9 PAGE THREAD(AND COUNTING) talking about 1 BAD PLAY that didnt affect the outcome of the game.

Posted by Nastycuts22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jan 2010
154 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 5:16 am to
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our fans are stupid


So the entire fan base is "stupid" because they booed JJ for a horrible play? people pay a lot of money and care a lot about LSU football . If they want to boo , then they can boo . It doesnt make them stupid. JJ played great after that , and I for one a happy he has played so well this year for the most part . But , If I want to boo , I will boo . You are , to use another persons wors , full of JACKASSERY
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1088 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 5:44 am to
you have heard nothing ye , we still have two games left, one of the two team will make JJ think , then we have problems , I know Saban will do that , I am not sure about Georgia .JJ is still the same JJ
Posted by NOLAtoChiTwn
Michigan
Member since Nov 2008
363 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:55 am to
One of best QB in the nation
signed: the lesser T.Wilson
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 7:37 am to
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you have heard nothing ye , we still have two games left, one of the two team will make JJ think , then we have problems , I know Saban will do that , I am not sure about Georgia .JJ is still the same JJ


Ah, here we go. The "Jefferson is stupid" argument. Had to come up

It's gotten to the point with some that if Jefferson waits for receiver to get open and then hits him, he still is holding the ball too long. He tries to make a flip pass at the last second (which is likely decision), it just confirms their worst feelings about the kid. I assure you I've see Drew Brees make that same decision numerous times with about a 50% success rate. I'm going out on a limb and saying that doesn't make him a bad quarterback.

I like both QB's but recognize that each has limitations. But Jefferson seems to give us more options. No QB plays a perfect game. Sometimes the nitpicking by fans is silly.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32257 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:04 am to
Hey Mr. King of Convenient Stats, be sure and factor in how many of his 37 sacks occurred in those games. You've done such a masterful job of compiling those stats from 2010, when we HAD a 1000 yard rusher and still finished in the bottom of all of the offensive stats. But you have thoughtfully provided us with tabular results filtering out the crappy games and painting a rosy picture that should be titled "Revisionist History", by JustMe.

We won games in spite of the QB play not because of it, really, since 2006, with the exception of a couple of games in 2007 (SECCG as an example), and a couple of game-winning TD passes. Team JJ should focus on the last few games where he has played well instead of the past two seasons where he mostly didn't.
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1415 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:32 am to
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So the entire fan base is "stupid" because they booed JJ for a horrible play?


The small proportion of fans that boo a 21 year old kid for making a poor decision on the football field are classless.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:38 am to
That dude takes it to another level doesnt he?
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2559 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:48 am to
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JJ is never was and will never be a crowd favorite. Deal with it.


the bright side of the story if that the haters will only get to boo him two more games, and won't have homefield advantage to do so. i wonder happpens next year if mett gets booed. it could throw some of the theories out the window as to why jj gets booed.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:20 am to
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Hey Mr. King of Convenient Stats, be sure and factor in how many of his 37 sacks occurred in those games. You've done such a masterful job of compiling those stats from 2010, when we HAD a 1000 yard rusher and still finished in the bottom of all of the offensive stats. But you have thoughtfully provided us with tabular results filtering out the crappy games and painting a rosy picture that should be titled "Revisionist History", by JustMe.


You have officially gone FULL ranter with this post. You've posted some truly horrific crap before, but you've truly lost it with this post.

I included LSU RB rushing stats AND total LSU rushing stats.

WTF are you even trying to say?

I have posted Jefferson's stats for the entire 2011 season. I have posted Jefferson's stats from every season he has played. I have posted Jefferson's stats for his entire career.

You try to paint it as me presenting cherry picked stats, but the obvious truth is that you just don't like the stats because they present the objective truth and not your subjective bullshite.


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We won games in spite of the QB play not because of it, really, since 2006, with the exception of a couple of games in 2007 (SECCG as an example), and a couple of game-winning TD passes.


Well, there you go again.

There it is folks. For all to read.

Icansee4miles thinks that we won despite Flynn and not because of him.

ALL of the games in which Jefferson and Lee were the QB, LSU won depsite the QB play, and not because of it.


Dude, you're a loon. You're a moron. You've lost what tenuous grip you had on reality.

Your anger has blinded you to the clear facts.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:27 am to
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Your anger has blinded you to the clear facts.
THIS!
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:30 am to
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Your anger has blinded you to the clear facts.


Unfortunately, there are a few others. Thankfully, the majority seems to be coming around.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:39 am to
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Who is more stupid - the people who complain or the people who complain about the people who complain?


depends on the season.....right now its the people who complain. any more questions?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:46 am to
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So the entire fan base is "stupid" because they booed JJ for a horrible play? people pay a lot of money and care a lot about LSU football . If they want to boo , then they can boo . It doesnt make them stupid. JJ played great after that , and I for one a happy he has played so well this year for the most part . But , If I want to boo , I will boo . You are , to use another persons wors , full of JACKASSERY


do boo every time LSU has a bad play? booing the undisputed #1 team in the country for a few bad plays is stupid....i don't care how you try to spin it.

i can also guarantee that if Lee had made those horrible plays you wouldn't have heard one boo. take that however you want...but its a fact.
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