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re: Fan base perception of Dabo - sound familiar?

Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:32 pm to
You got me pegged wrong. I liked miles. I thought he did a great job his first 7-8 years. I defended him with passion to all the ignorant posters that said he was an idiot/clown.

It was time for miles to go, but I was one of the last supporters.

It's not what this man posts, it's the manner in which he does it. He talks down to almost everyone on here, and loses his shite with the slightest mention of something negative about miles. A grown man calling posters boy on here, I mean seriously. He has some real issues. Some people troll on here...he doesn't.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Exhibit a. You have some serious issues, especially for a grown man. Wow


says the supposed grown man that created his username because he didnt like the posts of another poster.

its laughable that someone that claims they" specialized in debate" would lose their mind over actual facts. no one that has a history of debate would let facts get them to make unprovoked personal attacks.


when i say ed orgeron's best win as a head coach is a 3 loss auburn you take that as bashing O. its called reality
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15905 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:38 pm to
My apologies then.

I don't always agree with Rick, but I think he gets unfairly trashed on here for regurgitating Miles stats. Les was a damn good coach for us for relatively long period of time, compared to the rest of the college football world. And yes, I believed it was time for him to go, too.
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:42 pm to
As for miles, you are dead wrong. You aren't some miles fact genius. I know all of his accomplishments, and am proud of what he accomplished at LSU.

As for O. That is clearly your intention. That's not a secret. There are plenty of facts to bash any coach with facts. Truth is, O has work to do in building a complete team. I like where he is headed. In order for Lsu to be back competing at the top of college football, we HAD to improve in the trenches. Lsu will always have athletes in the skill positions.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:51 pm to
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As for miles, you are dead wrong. You aren't some miles fact genius. I know all of his accomplishments, and am proud of what he accomplished at LSU. 



if you were proud you WOULDNT label them as DEFENDING miles. its not defending. its reality
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As for O. That is clearly your intentio


yes its my intention to posts facts about every coach.
where are these positive facts about O that im ignoring?
ive repeatedly said if we win our bowl IN MY OPINION its a decent season.
when O starts accumulating positive stats ill post them but at this point in his head coaching career he doesnt have any. the highlight of his career is a 3 loss season with his best win being a 3 loss auburn team.

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 has work to do in building a complete team. 


literally no one including O thought this team needing any rebuilding until we started losing to inferior teams.



stop acting like the transfers and attrition has nothing to do with 0.

if our dline sucks then we have the person to blame. the dline coacb since 2014 and recruiting coordinator since 2015.
when miles was fired our dline was littered with 4 star players.
our oline had 3 players that made an all sec team and a rimington award finalist.
stop passing blame because you like the coach
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Born in BR
Ormond Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2007
438 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:00 pm to
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Their backgrounds couldn’t be more dissimilar. Dabo played and won a national Championship for the most storied program in CFB. He had never been a HC and was 38 when he took over a program that hadn’t won a conference title in 20 years. O played at Natchitoches, had one of the worst tenures as HC in Ole Miss history, and at 56 took over a program that won the SEC five years earlier and won four in the past 15 years and won two NCs and played for another. One of the hires at least made some sense. One didn’t.

You miss the point. Orgeron is similar to Dabo in personality. Admittedly Coach Eaux needed to mature (vis a vis Ole Miss). However he had the insight to analyze his shortcomings and change (unlike Miles) and the results are obvious. He will have his ups and downs (as Dabo did) but will produce a winner (as Dabo did).
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:09 pm to
Dude I'm not going to argue with you. Alabama has owned our lines the last few years and was getting worse. You can post all the bs you want. I honest to God didn't read it. If you sit here and argue against that fact then it is obvious you will argue anything that is miles related. No one thought this team would be a playoff team, and it wasn't due to lack of dbs, rbs, or wrs.

You would argue with a GD wall if it was to argue anything negative toward miles.

YES Lsu needs to get better in the trenches with big, talented guys. O is addressing that.

Oh, and you honestly do have some serious issues. I think you have grown so used to trying to put people down that you don't even see how you come across. My guess is that is who you truly are though in life.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23066 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:29 pm to
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He was OC the year Bowden was let go.


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Swinney's first actions as interim head coach were to fire offensive coordinator Rob Spence


Orgeron fired Cam immediately.....the comparisons between Orgeron and Dabo just keep coming. Its uncanny really.


Don't have time to fact check the rest of your post but Brad Scott was Associate Head Coach when Dabo was promoted - maybe they had two? Don't know.

TDP promoted a WR coach that had never been a coordinator. Tell me again how my facts are off

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Yes people were pissed about the 6-6 record in 2010, but they saw all those close losses as being progress

Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15905 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:32 pm to
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No one thought this team would be a playoff team

Except for O apparently.

I don't post that glibly. He said himself that we would be in the playoffs this year. He said in his introductory press conference that he understood the expectations and we would be competing for championships "very fast".

Regardless if you believed him, those are the standards the man set himself. I'd like to think he would knock out some of his ardent apologists on here for excusing this season.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24368 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:29 pm to
That’s right. He FIRED HIS OC AND TOOK OVER. Didn’t promote an ex Aggie OC.
Say what you want, he didn’t have to hire a legend to take his spot because he couldn’t handle it.
My point. Plus he was associate HC.

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:11 pm to
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We get it. Support O.



No...not necessarily...just don't be a total douche about it.
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:12 pm to
Excuse a potential top 10 season with all our injuries? Ok
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23066 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:58 pm to
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Plus he was associate HC.
Prove it. Your first post was riddled with errors so forgive me if i don't believe you. Brad Scott was the associate head coach - were there two AHC?

quote:

My point.
Still trying to figure out what your point is. You seem confused.

Nothing i have said is false.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:26 pm to
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Just curious but was Dabo known as one of the worst head coaches in ACC history when he was hired?



Maybe he is known to you, an ignoramus, that way. But to people that were at Ole Miss at the same time like Hugh Freeze and other former assistants, they viewed O and still do as being a good coach dealt a bad hand. Just like that new Baylor coach who finished 1 & 11 in this his first season. That's not his fault. He didn't recruit those piss poor players. He was just dealt a bad hand.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:43 pm to
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but pretty much everything he posts is what it is.


If that were the case loon, Les Miles would have a new head coaching job long ago. However, every AD avoids him like the plague because nothing that he posts is what it is. it's what he wishes it was, but not what it actually was.
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:31 pm to
I disagree, Les does have 3 west titles, 2 sec champs, 2 nc appearances, and 1 title. However, his best three year span was likely with most of saban's players. For arguments sake, he did put together a very nice 10', 11', and 12' run...after that it was downhill. Chavis fked us in 12'.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:12 pm to
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Alabama has owned our lines the last few years and was getting worse. 


so like 99% of cfb
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o one thought this team would be a playoff team






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You would argue with a GD wall if it was to argue anything negative toward miles. 


ive repeatedly said he was a flawed coach and he was justly fired.

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Oh, and you honestly do have some serious issues. I think you have grown so used to trying to put people down that you don't even see how you come across. My guess is that is who you truly are though in life.


i dont care how i come across to a person that gets upset over facts.


you claim to be a lsu fan but ive never
in my life come across a fan that hates FACTS that paint the program you claim to love, in a positive light.

Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9123 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:37 am to
That 3 loss Auburn team beat the almighty Bama, went to the SEC championship and had to play a team they destroyed again. One of those loses was to LSU dumbass.

Before the season O hadn't won a SEC game as HC, once he did that, he hadn't won an SEC game away, after he did that, he hadn't beaten a real top 25 SEC team, ok he's done that now.

So basically what I'm saying is in this day of SEC west football, which everyone would agree is much better than when Miles took over, coach O is winning games and big games. He picked his team up from its lowest point in a decade or more. They could've easily crumbled, like everyone, including you, just knew was about to happen.

The TRUE fans stayed by our Tigers side and knew they would pull through and they did. Has to suck knowing you lost all hope in LSU then they proceed to go on a tear and all they do is win. See I've been saying for a while now, LSU doesn't need you son!!
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 1:42 am
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:49 pm to
And in most of your 40 THOUSAND posts you are condescending and fn stupid.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47135 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:24 pm to
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Just curious but was Dabo known as one of the worst head coaches in ACC history when he was hired?


We will never know unless someone goes back in time and hires him at a runt like Virginia as a 1st time HC.
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