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Explaining the LSU transfers??

Posted on 4/2/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45108 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 12:12 pm
Here is how I see this. The majority of this is driven by relationships. Relationships that were formed in recruiting and on the AAU circuit. The players that were here have little no relationship with McMahon at least not as much as they have with other power 5 coaches. So it is easy to see why they bolted for other places when you also consider LSU will likely not be in post season next year. Agree? disagree?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 12:13 pm to
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The majority of this is driven by payouts.
Posted by GeauxAus
Member since Aug 2016
471 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:07 pm to
But don’t you find it funny that these young men are leaving to a team that they have no relationships with (or very few) whereas I’m sure they have made friends here, developed relationships. But I’m guessing it’s more a F U for letting their coach go. The players could have stayed, fanbase would love on them which could equate to more $$ through NIL deals because the locals would want to thank them for staying. Now they go to a place where they are unknown (let’s be real we had no stars besides Eason) and for most the NIL money is not there going to a new team where they are relatively unknown to the masses.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2258 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:14 pm to
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The majority of this is driven by payouts.


That's dumb. The reason Will Wade lost his job is that he is clearly very bad at moving money from one place to another in a deceptive manner.

If he actually had a good mechanism for secretively distributing large sums of money, he would still have his job.
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
745 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:15 pm to
Disagree. What makes you think the players have a strong relationship with an established coach. They still up and leave with a coach that they supposedly like. It's got to be money. You see guys leaving from coaches that have been around forever. It's such a sorry affair.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28328 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:20 pm to
They all signed to play for Will Wade. Will Wade is no longer the HC at LSU. Thus, they are essentially reopening their recruitment to everyone. That probably includes LSU with their new HC. They also probably weren’t happy with LSU for the timing of the firing. The school to whom so many fans one here demand loyalty fired the players’s HC just days before the event (NCAA Tournament) for which they had worked all season to reach. That likely left a bitter taste in their mouths towards LSU.

This isn’t all that difficult to understand
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51131 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:21 pm to
Why would they knowingly stick around a place that will likely have sanctions (postseason ban/scholly restrictions that will make the team shitter) when they can transfer out with immediate eligibility and get a fresh start and maybe more (legal) NiL $$$?

Said differently.. what kinda idiot would stick around in this day and age of instant transfer, NiL and with the tourney/postseason exposure buggest than ever?



Eta- also entering the portal doesnt necessarily mean they are gone. They'd be dumb not to test the market and explore their options tho

This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6278 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:23 pm to
Probably the similar reason football had some departures after Ed O left. Ed O and Wade were very much player friendly coaches and were more lax in discipline than the new hires. Some players once given that freedom don't want to give it back.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:24 pm to
I don’t know why people are trying to come up with all these excuses. It’s very obvious why they transferred. They loved Wade and thought Wade got screwed. I would have done the exact same thing if I was an athlete and the coach I played for was fired in what I felt was a questionable firing. The coach they had a great relationship with is gone. So they are going to go through the recruiting process again.
This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28328 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Ed O and Wade were very much player friendly coaches and were more lax in discipline than the new hires


Outside of Wyade Simms (who wasn’t a Wade recruit), when did you ever hear of any basketball player getting in off the court trouble? Wade certainly wasn’t lax in discipline. He wasn’t afraid to boot a malcontent off the team. Just go back to his first season to see evidence of that.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51131 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:31 pm to
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It’s very obvious why they transferred. They loved Wade and thought Wade got screwed



That's your opinion and not fact.

Wade was very sloppy and put the entire program at risk. Woody did what he had to do. Any AD in the country would have done the same. Also by restructuring Wade's contract he saved us a buyout.
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
745 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:37 pm to
This firing was questionable?? I think everyone knew what would happened. You were caught cheating whether you like it or not. Guess it just depends on what your sense of honesty is and how far you are willing to go.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34699 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:40 pm to
Why would they want to stick around with an administration that sabotaged their post season chances once again?

They also have no relationship with the new coach. Really no reason for them to stick around if they can find somewhere else to go
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30152 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:47 pm to
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But don’t you find it funny that these young men are leaving to a team that they have no relationships with (or very few) whereas I’m sure they have made friends here, developed relationships


Where are they going such that you know they have little or no relationship with anyone there?

It appears to me like they are in the portal but not committed anywhere else as of yet (which may mean exactly what you say but it is uncertain).

First two guys to enter the portal, Pinson and Murray, were two guys who likely want to be somewhere to showcase what they have because they hope to hit the draft after next season. Potential sanctions, whether you think that is likely or not, may have made them think they would not get much exposure next season.

Shareef and Adam Miller may have had the same line of thinking.

I think at that point it was as much momentum as anything .
Posted by BleauxHard
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
49 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:58 pm to
What I have a hard time understanding is why leave now? It’s gonna be a couple years before we know anything. As of right now, we can go on as normal. Most of these guys would be starting for us next year. So why leave? Is it nearly because wade is gone?
Posted by davidb104
DeRidder
Member since Jun 2014
123 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:24 pm to
I know that football and basketball are different, but it’s worth noting that BK and staff looked for players with a Louisiana connection when utilizing the portal. As has been pointed out, these players (with the possible exception of O’Neal) had little connection with Louisiana or LSU other than Wade.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:31 pm to
Was addressing OP’s question, thugs are leaving because they’re no longer on the payroll
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13072 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:36 pm to
Do you think our 11 players were "thugs?" WTF?
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7273 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 3:32 pm to
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So it is easy to see why they bolted for other places

What other places have they bolted to? They’re testing the free agent market and may or may not find a better deal for themselves.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 3:34 pm to
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The majority of this is driven by relationships


BREAKING NEWS: Pretty much all recruiting is driven by relationships with coaches and handlers, not because they grew up dreaming of playing for some school.
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