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re: Explain the negatives of JJ getting 5-6 wildcat/option snaps
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:28 pm to TIGRLEE
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:28 pm to TIGRLEE
Elleshue,
If they do what you said, they would still be better off just doing the same thing with Shep. He's more a threat to break it and passing he's no worse.
If they do what you said, they would still be better off just doing the same thing with Shep. He's more a threat to break it and passing he's no worse.
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:29 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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and passing he's no worse.
ehh... don't be stupid.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:29 pm to extremetigerfanatic
There's a reason Shepard hasn't thrown a pass in his career at LSU.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:30 pm to Elleshoe
We don't need Shep throwing it.. let's be real, he needs to learn how to catch it.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:30 pm to Adam Banks
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Thanks for letting your personal biases against JJ under crowtons tutelage show instead of having an intelligent conversation about football strategies and the negatives of having an added dimension in specific situations. I can bring up Jarrett Lees pick six year but I dont because it has no relevance to this year.
How is JJ's production on the field indicative of my personal biases? You can bring up JL's pick sixes if you want. I'll bring up the lack of pick sixes since that year. I'll also bring up his production this year. I understand your passing lane theory and I agree with you, but you still have to understand that even with that, JJ has to get the ball there, right? That's the problem. You do understand that, right? He's been there. The experiment has been done. He didn't get it done. He may be able to, I don't know, but you don't experiment with proven failure when you have good things going.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:30 pm to BayouBengals03
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You've seen JJ play this year
Saw him in the spring game...he was easily the worst QB on the field.
Didn't get to see the scrimmages right before the season, but by all accounts and statistical comparison, he was the worst of the three again...
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:31 pm to BayouBengals03
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But he will be in there strictly for running purposes 95% of the time. And like I said, this is only if we continuous struggle in the red zone. If we do well in the red zone, then he shouldn't play.
Is JJ a better running option than Ware or Ford and should he take away some of their carries?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:31 pm to BayouBengals03
So now he's just in there to run?
Lol, you people are insane. We are really gonna throw Bama a curveball by reimplementing JJ's 2.5 ypc. He's a likeable kid who the players obviously support, so put him out there during garbage time and let him be a part of the team, but he brings virtually nothing to the table that Ware or Shep can't bring.
Lol, you people are insane. We are really gonna throw Bama a curveball by reimplementing JJ's 2.5 ypc. He's a likeable kid who the players obviously support, so put him out there during garbage time and let him be a part of the team, but he brings virtually nothing to the table that Ware or Shep can't bring.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:31 pm to BayouBengals03
Just 3 or 4 snaps- so who do you want to see get 3 or 4 less touches?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:32 pm to Elleshoe
But I mean... it's not like our redzone offense has been terrible or anything.
It doesn't hurt to HAVE plays ready that JJ can run, such as the option run and possible play action. But I don't think it'll be absolutely necessary to use them.
While it is presumptuous to think we'll roll everyone that we face, I think it's also presumptuous to think that option plays and different looks will be necessary to defeat Alabama or Florida.
Have 'em ready, but don't use unless traditional redzone attempts become utter failures during the game.
It doesn't hurt to HAVE plays ready that JJ can run, such as the option run and possible play action. But I don't think it'll be absolutely necessary to use them.
While it is presumptuous to think we'll roll everyone that we face, I think it's also presumptuous to think that option plays and different looks will be necessary to defeat Alabama or Florida.
Have 'em ready, but don't use unless traditional redzone attempts become utter failures during the game.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:32 pm to Housplants
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Saw him in the spring game...he was easily the worst QB on the field.
THat's what I saw. The plays that all the rantards praised as being the "New JJ" were the same old shite.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:32 pm to BayouBengals03
have you jackasses seen the last two years? You are telling me that Shep can't throw for 40% accuracy and 90 yards a game?
Whatever. I'll let you have that if you want. But the point still stands. If you are just going to have him run it 95% of the time and the only passes are surprise passes, then why not Shep or Ware.
Dear God, I hope that Miles and Stud aren't as fricking demented as you idiots.
Whatever. I'll let you have that if you want. But the point still stands. If you are just going to have him run it 95% of the time and the only passes are surprise passes, then why not Shep or Ware.
Dear God, I hope that Miles and Stud aren't as fricking demented as you idiots.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:32 pm to BayouBengals03
So now Shep is incapable of completing a wide open pass? How many passes did Early throw at LSU?
Eta: this is a retarded subject, no more involvement from this guy.
Eta: this is a retarded subject, no more involvement from this guy.
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:33 pm to Revelator
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Is JJ a better running option than Ware or Ford and should he take away some of their carries?
If we are struggling in the red zone, sure.
3 or 4 times a game. And Ware or Ford would still be in the backfield with him.
Has it occurred to anyone that Jefferson could just go in there and hand the ball off to Ware or Ford out of the shotgun? Just him being in there would make the ends hesitate.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:34 pm to INFIDEL
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I'll bring up the lack of pick sixes since that year. I'll also bring up his production this year. I understand your passing lane theory and I agree with you, but you still have to understand that even with that, JJ has to get the ball there, right? That's the problem. You do understand that, right? He's been there. The experiment has been done. He didn't get it done. He may be able to, I don't know, but you don't experiment with proven failure when you have good things going.
From Bama on JJ looked solid. Not amazing but decent. With Krags his mechanics have looked better in the spring game. It wouldnt be completely revamping the offense its a few plays. Its a wrinkle to the playbook. A couple more plays for the opposing defense to have to spend time on in practice. Miles has made it very clear who the starter is. If JJ still comes back as it appears he will then he is fine with that and willing to do what helps the team.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:34 pm to BayouBengals03
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But he will be in there strictly for running purposes 95% of the time. And like I said, this is only if we continuous struggle in the red zone. If we do well in the red zone, then he shouldn't play.
We only struggled in the redzone vs MSU. Some of that was bad playcalling like FB dives and shite.
The offense struggled a lot with JJ under center last year. I don't think JJ can get enough meaningful snaps to make himself a viable option this season. Sure he may come in and run an option of two, but passing effectively, whether it's one pass or 20 passes, requires timing with our WRs and JJ hasn't practiced for 5 weeks.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:34 pm to Elleshoe
You want a negative? How bout the fact he doesn't even know how to run an option?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:34 pm to BayouBengals03
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Has it occurred to anyone that Jefferson could just go in there and hand the ball off to Ware or Ford out of the shotgun? Just him being in there would make the ends hesitate.
nuh uh. he would fumble or get sacked. thats what all the rantard coaches told me.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:35 pm to AlexLSU
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Lol, you people are insane. We are really gonna throw Bama a curveball by reimplementing JJ's 2.5 ypc. He's a likeable kid who the players obviously support, so put him out there during garbage time and let him be a part of the team, but he brings virtually nothing to the table that Ware or Shep can't bring.
Why can't Jefferson go in there and hand the ball off to Ware or Ford? He's certainly more of a threat to run than Lee, so if it makes the ends hesitate at all then it would be worth it.
What, are we so afraid of Jefferson that we won't even let him go in there and hand the ball off?
You are the insane one.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:35 pm to Elleshoe
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nuh uh. he would fumble or get sacked. thats what all the rantard coaches told me.
Honest question. How many times has Lee handed the ball off in shotgun?
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