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re: Expectations of Will Wade coming to LSU?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:36 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:36 pm to Chad504boy
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so quit on the woman's sport that achieves annual top 10ish tiered success for the boy's sport so we can be closer to mediocre?
If they start turning a profit then continue sinking money.
Otherwise minimize costs.
I ain’t no commie.
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:36 pm to Chad504boy
Be in the mix and not a doormat, but that should be the expectation of whoever is the basketball coach.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:39 pm to Alt26
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But I'm not jumping into threads giving my ignorant opinion as to what the program should or should not do.
You don't think there's a tug o war going on with the athletic department budget and resources spent in all of these various sports?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:39 pm to BilJ
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a case can be made for one of our worst ADs ever due. He nearly sank football and basketball with his hubris. At least alleva's frick ups were easier to get out of. If not for the dumb arse contract he gave to McMahon the dude is fired last week, possibly last year.
It may have been 100% absolute dumb luck but Alleva stumbled into being the man to hire SEC winning men’s basketball coach and NC winning football coach.
In terms of revenue earning sports Joe Allevas hires accomplishments completely dwarf Woodward’s in addition to being massively cheaper.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:40 pm to Chad504boy
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You don't think there's a tug o war going on with the athletic department budget and resources spent in all of these various sports?
So why would you question not sinking money into revenue losing sports and moving that to men’s basketball and football
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:42 pm to Madking
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Woody thought he was the principal at Catholic High
I think he just legitimately thought he could not possibly make a bad hire
MM was not so good you had to give him that contract length to get him here due to "looming sanctions" Move onto the next random mid major frick if a 4 year deal isn't enough.
Same with Kelly really....a 10 year deal for a guy his age? Why? This was even less forgivable. Don't want to leave ND to have a chance at getting that elusive NC onto your resume? No problem, we have a long list of people wanting this job. He bet it all on Kelly and it just was not necessary. I thought Kelly would win here but from the jump I did not like that contract length given his age and history of being a stubborn prick that you would have 0 leverage over if things went south
but that was Scott's "magic" lots of money and lots of years.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:44 pm to Adam Banks
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So why would you question not sinking money into revenue losing sports and moving that to men’s basketball and football
some sports are going to be unprofitable regardless of success or no success. but the little cost (in comparison) of these sports and their success it adds to lsu branding is way more valuable means of money lost than spending millions of millions to still be barely mediocre in a men's sport. I don't think LSU being in the SEC pool of split revenues is losing money regardless if we are a shite product right now.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:45 pm to The Pirate King
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better dang well be in serious championship conversation.
the format in which their champion is crowned makes that an impossible standard for even the best of coaches.
Wade is a known commodity in a hiring process that's typically a complete crapshoot
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:46 pm to BilJ
Agree completely with both. I was fine with the Kelly hire but hated the contract. With McMahon I hated the hire and the contract because I’d seen him coach.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:47 pm to Chad504boy
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but the little cost (in comparison) of these sports and their success it adds to lsu branding is way more valuable
That's the old model and is no longer the case when everyone was donating to the TAF bucket and money was more easily spread. Losing a few mill here and there isn't as justifiable as it once was. Scott's failure to adjust to this model is why he's out on his big fat arse
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:56 pm to Chad504boy
I’d welcome back Wade in a heartbeat but am not please were seemingly in a Wade returns or McMahon is back for a lame duck year.
We should be shooting for the best coach we can realistically get that fits LSU. Heck, that still might be Wade.
My expectations are make the tournament almost every year which Wade has accomplished as a coach.
Occasionally compete for the sec championship and make a deep run.
For those saying Wade hasn’t done that yet. I’m convinced the 2019 team was a final 4 caliber team if he coaches them in the tournament without which means no distraction ever happens.
That was easily his best and most complete team top to bottom.
We should be shooting for the best coach we can realistically get that fits LSU. Heck, that still might be Wade.
My expectations are make the tournament almost every year which Wade has accomplished as a coach.
Occasionally compete for the sec championship and make a deep run.
For those saying Wade hasn’t done that yet. I’m convinced the 2019 team was a final 4 caliber team if he coaches them in the tournament without which means no distraction ever happens.
That was easily his best and most complete team top to bottom.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:57 pm to LSUGrad9295
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If McMahon was definitely staying, somebody would have said something by now. If McMahon was definitely leaving, somebody would have said something by now. LSU obviously has a couple of people in mind and is waiting to see if one of those comes through. If they don't land who they are looking for, then McMahon stays.
This.
Silence is deafening. You have other coaches who were on the hot seat, whose admins have said they will be coming back for another year.
Here, we have reporters asking McMahon why he should be back. We have reporters in Raleigh asking Wade about LSU rumors. Yet nothing from the athletic department to put out any fires.
There are definitely discussions being had behind the scenes. But I would like some closure by the end of the week for the sake of high school recruiting
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:03 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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instantly turned them around
He finished the season 2-8 in the last 10 games after he finally started playing decent teams and not just the cow dung of the ACC.
Also got bounced before even getting to the actual NCAA tournament.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:08 pm to The Pirate King
......in year one
do you realize how goddamn stupid you sound shittng on that? Of course you don't, otherwise you wouldn't be pirate king.
But again pirate....present me with your list of candidates better than wade instead of repeating the same dumb arse shite
do you realize how goddamn stupid you sound shittng on that? Of course you don't, otherwise you wouldn't be pirate king.
But again pirate....present me with your list of candidates better than wade instead of repeating the same dumb arse shite
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:12 pm to Chad504boy
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You don't think there's a tug o war going on with the athletic department budget and resources spent in all of these various sports?
Sure.
But there are only two profitable sports and there is BIG void in maximizing the revenue generating potential of one of them.
LSU baseball is at the top of the marketplace in that respective sport. Both in terms of resources and success. You could argue the same for WBB. That means you are getting to, if you aren't already there, a point of diminishing returns on additional significant investment into them. An additional influx of investment is not going to produce a significant increase in success and revenue....because LSU is already maximizing their output. You can't get much better than being the best program in the sport.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:14 pm to Alt26
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there is BIG void in maximizing the revenue generating potential of one of them.
can you define the void for me?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:18 pm to Chad504boy
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can you define the void for me?
MBB makes about $2m profit per year now. The most optimistic projections say Wade could bump that up to $5-6m in profit.
I doubt that considering your expenses will also be going up significantly.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:18 pm to Chad504boy
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can you define the void for me?
It’s a cold early December weeknight, LSU hosts [insert vaunted SWAC opponent] the pmac is rocking (not really) with a paid attendance of ~2,500 but in actuality there’s a mishmash of about 700 people who once had “i like Ike” bumper stickers and teens/early 20s who might stay to halftime before shooting out to mellow mushroom to trade pokemon cards.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:19 pm to The Pirate King
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MBB makes about $2m profit per year now. The most optimistic projections say Wade could bump that up to $5-6m in profit.
Make 4 more million and needing to spend X amount more on coaching staff and X amount more per year for players NIL fund?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:21 pm to Chad504boy
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Make 4 more million and needing to spend X amount more on coaching staff and X amount more per year for players NIL fund?
Not only that, but let's say he does well...then it's hundreds of thousands in additional travel expenses for exotic preseason tournaments, and postseason play.
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