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Every good quarterback under Les Miles didn't spend his first 2 years with him
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:56 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:56 am
JaMarcus Russell. Matt Flynn. Zach Mettenberger.
Danny Etling didn't either.
Is there some type of correlation here?
ETA: Just for clarification, I am not stating that Danny Etling is in the category of good quarterbacks or even close at this point. I am only including the first three in that group. I am simply stating that Danny Etling shares that same fact as those three.
Danny Etling didn't either.
Is there some type of correlation here?
ETA: Just for clarification, I am not stating that Danny Etling is in the category of good quarterbacks or even close at this point. I am only including the first three in that group. I am simply stating that Danny Etling shares that same fact as those three.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:57 am to ccox11
quote:
Is there some type of correlation here?
I see where you're going with this.... And I think I agree.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:59 am to ccox11
Is there some type of correlation here?
The second letter in every name is an "a." Also everyone name has a double consonant within.
The second letter in every name is an "a." Also everyone name has a double consonant within.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:59 am to ccox11
quote:
Danny Etling didn't either.
he has thrown 14 passes chief...lets not anoint him as the next Hodson yet
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:00 am to ccox11
Well we don't know if Etling is any good yet do we.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:00 am to ibleedprplngld
perrilloux would have been great.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:01 am to ccox11
Im not sure if the bigger problem is that we recruit shotgun-duel threats in high school to run pro style, or that whoever we recruit is simply not taught the transition from high school to college ball well enough. Either way, seems like they ough to give up on recruiting high schoolers and stick with pulling in transfer QBs that have already been properly coached through the transition.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:01 am to ccox11
quote:Cool, except Miles isn't a QB coach........also RP said stfu.
Every good quarterback under Les Miles didn't spend his first 2 years with him
ETA: Mett wasn't good enough to take the job from Lee or JJ who spent careers under a couple of Miles QB coaches, and improved greatly from '12 to '13. Correlate that shite.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:43 am to ccox11
Oh. I didn't know Danny etling was already in the good LSU quarterbacks category.
Jacksonville state must be better than I thought,a lot better.
Jacksonville state must be better than I thought,a lot better.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:45 am to ccox11
I don't have a problem giving Miles credit for Flynn and Mett, but the overall criticism at the QB position still falls on his shoulders.
Even with Mett, his 2012 junior year was no more efficient than Harris was last year. Harris had a higher QB rating, more TDs, less INTs, and more yards per attempt. Matt was more accurate and we threw it 4 more times per game with Mett.
There has been exactly 3 years since the 2008 season when the LSU passer rating has been in the top 50:
49th @ 132.11 in 2009
24th @ 147.55 in 2011
6th @ 164.72 in 2013
If you want to play the way Miles plays, you can and should be efficient when you throw the ball. Stanford does it exceptionally well.
Perhaps Miles and the staff have run into an all-time worst streak of QB recruiting:
2005
Perrilloux - 5*, #1 Dual-threat, #6 overall
2007
Lee - 4*, #8 Pro-style, #117 overall
2008
Jefferson - 3*, #12 Pro-style, #325 overall
2009
Sheppard - 5*, #1 Dual-threat, #3 overall
Garrett - 3*, #19 Pro-style, #482 overall
2010
Z. Lee - 3*, #18 Pro-style, #352 overall
2011
Mettenberger - 4*, #1 Pro-style, #4 overall (JUCO)
J. Randall - 4*, # 8 Dual-threat, #186 overall
Rivers - 3*, #19 Pro-style, #618 overall
2013
Rettig - 4*, #9 Pro-style, #152 overall
Jennings - 4*, #14 Pro-style, #214 overall
2014
Harris - 4*, #3 Dual-threat, #75 overall
All of those QBs combined for 1484/2584 - 57.4% - 19,717 yards - 141 TDs - 76 INTs and a passer rating of 133.6. As a group they would have been ranked 75th in the country in completion percentage last year. They would have ranked 54th in passer rating and 43rd in yards per attempt. Maybe it was the wrong guys. Maybe things didn't work out with Perrilloux and Z. Lee. At some point the overall performance has to matter though, and it hasn't been good.
There isn't a more appropriate word to describe LSU's passing game since 2007 than "mediocre".
Even with Mett, his 2012 junior year was no more efficient than Harris was last year. Harris had a higher QB rating, more TDs, less INTs, and more yards per attempt. Matt was more accurate and we threw it 4 more times per game with Mett.
There has been exactly 3 years since the 2008 season when the LSU passer rating has been in the top 50:
49th @ 132.11 in 2009
24th @ 147.55 in 2011
6th @ 164.72 in 2013
If you want to play the way Miles plays, you can and should be efficient when you throw the ball. Stanford does it exceptionally well.
Perhaps Miles and the staff have run into an all-time worst streak of QB recruiting:
2005
Perrilloux - 5*, #1 Dual-threat, #6 overall
2007
Lee - 4*, #8 Pro-style, #117 overall
2008
Jefferson - 3*, #12 Pro-style, #325 overall
2009
Sheppard - 5*, #1 Dual-threat, #3 overall
Garrett - 3*, #19 Pro-style, #482 overall
2010
Z. Lee - 3*, #18 Pro-style, #352 overall
2011
Mettenberger - 4*, #1 Pro-style, #4 overall (JUCO)
J. Randall - 4*, # 8 Dual-threat, #186 overall
Rivers - 3*, #19 Pro-style, #618 overall
2013
Rettig - 4*, #9 Pro-style, #152 overall
Jennings - 4*, #14 Pro-style, #214 overall
2014
Harris - 4*, #3 Dual-threat, #75 overall
All of those QBs combined for 1484/2584 - 57.4% - 19,717 yards - 141 TDs - 76 INTs and a passer rating of 133.6. As a group they would have been ranked 75th in the country in completion percentage last year. They would have ranked 54th in passer rating and 43rd in yards per attempt. Maybe it was the wrong guys. Maybe things didn't work out with Perrilloux and Z. Lee. At some point the overall performance has to matter though, and it hasn't been good.
There isn't a more appropriate word to describe LSU's passing game since 2007 than "mediocre".
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:45 am to ccox11
RP won an SEC title with a busted hand
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:52 am to ccox11
quote:
JaMarcus Russell. Matt Flynn
These two had a constant...Jimbo Fisher.
quote:
Zach Mettenberger
This one VERY CLEARLY got better between his arrival and his departure. If you can't admit this you are lying to yourself.
quote:
Danny Etling didn't either.
This one has played less than 45 minutes of football at LSU, and the last 30 of those he was 0-for-whatever with a pick and a fumble. Let's just ease up for a bit.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:57 am to ready4something
About as great as Cecil Collins
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:59 am to Mayhawman
quote:
Cool, except Miles isn't a QB coach........also RP said stfu.
ETA: Mett wasn't good enough to take the job from Lee or JJ who spent careers under a couple of Miles QB coaches, and improved greatly from '12 to '13. Correlate that shite.
It's too early to be drinking.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:00 am to Mayhawman
quote:
ETA: Mett wasn't good enough to take the job from Lee or JJ who spent careers under a couple of Miles QB coaches, and improved greatly from '12 to '13. Correlate that shite.
Just like Etling was good enough to start over Harris this past weekend?
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:04 am to MrSpock
Dp
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 10:06 am
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