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re: Etling vs Chattanoogie (Every throw)
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:48 am to cforester821
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:48 am to cforester821
Thanks
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:58 am to Lsuhoohoo
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David Ducre and Drake Davis were wide open because Chark had 4 guys chasing him before Etling even threw the ball. Both those guys would have had big gains as well. Chark proably wasn't the ideal target there
This is what's concerning. Chark literally had 4 players on him. David Ducre was as wide open as a college player can be and was in the middle of the field. Etling had already determined he was throwing the ball to Chark no matter what before the play unfolded.
The throw he missed badly on to Chark over the middle is unacceptable as a 5th year senior. This throw has to be completed or at least within arms reach of Chark. It sailed a few yards over his head
The deep ball to Sullivan into double coverage should have never been thrown.
His two best throws were to Stevens on the sideline and to Chark on the sideline on similar routes both of which were fantastic.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:00 am to Lsuhoohoo
"But you also don't want him to get to bail happy the moment he feels any pressure."
this is my biggest concern about Etling. It looks sometime like he's giving up on a play too soon, before the pressure is really there.
this is my biggest concern about Etling. It looks sometime like he's giving up on a play too soon, before the pressure is really there.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:01 am to 31TIGERS
I thought his arm definitely still looked weak... anyone at this level can make the throws down the field in a clean pocket. His arm strength on out routes and making accurate throws with zip while off balance are the spots that arm strength comes into play more often. I didn't think he looked good when off balance and his out throws hung in the air way too long. Those get undercut by good dbs
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:07 am to cforester821
WTF are fans looking at when they say he underthrows?
I see 5 perfect passes
2 over throws
2 throw away
2 on target
1 really bad throw
1 on receiver not seeing ball
ONE underthrown ball and the WR got it
I see 5 perfect passes
2 over throws
2 throw away
2 on target
1 really bad throw
1 on receiver not seeing ball
ONE underthrown ball and the WR got it
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:25 am to Catman88
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WTF are fans looking at when they say he underthrows?
When he throws the ball deep, it doesn't go as far as it should. The throw lands under where the intended throw should go.
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I see 5 perfect passes
He had two perfect passes to Stevens and Chark. The TD to Davis was great as well but should be completed 9/10 times.
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1 on receiver not seeing ball
The throw to Guice landed 5 yards out of bounds.
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1 really bad throw
First attempt of the game sailed out of bounds. He threw into quadruple coverage. He threw into double coverage. He threw a sure td 3 yards over DJ Chark's head. He threw the ball to Guice out of bounds. That's 5 bad throws.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:37 am to the_watcher
I think a lot of this can be handled in film study. It's only game 2.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:44 am to Lsuhoohoo
Chark's man is 10 yards off the LOS here. I'd like to see Etling check to a quick screen here and let Chark beat his man to the endzone. This is where Etling's arm strength comes into play. He has to have the arm to get it there quick to allow Chark to have some space to make a move.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:50 am to the_watcher
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The deep ball to Sullivan into double coverage should have never been thrown.
That's bullshite. You have a 6'5 WR with the arms long enough to reach his knees. You throw it up and let him go get the ball.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:51 am to ipodking
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That's bullshite. You have a 6'5 WR with the arms long enough to reach his knees. You throw it up and let him go get the ball.
The pass to Sullivan wasn't as bad as the one to Chark.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:01 am to Salmon
He certainly wouldn't do this in SEC play. Like he said after the game he thought his WRs out matched the coverage so he threw it up to them and he was right. We don't know, the WRs could have said man look these guys can't stay with me just throw me the ball and I'll make the play, so he did that, and they came through for him. It was a big play. I'm more concerned with how late the throws are. If they are earlier they likely score on all the deep balls except for Sullivan's. That's was indeed a jump ball and I would take that against most coverage even in the SEC. There aren't many DBs who can go up with Sullivan or Drake and out muscle those two. We needed to work on these types of throws. If we can do it with 4 FCS guys we can likely do it with one SEC guy. Throws need to be earlier and he should be more patient in the pocket. I would really like to see him look backside when one side is taken away bc there is usually guys wide open if you just look real quick. GT
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:13 am to ipodking
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That's bullshite. You have a 6'5 WR with the arms long enough to reach his knees. You throw it up and let him go get the ball.
Not in double coverage.
Literally no one would have defended that pass if that safety doesn't go full retard and picks that pass off.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:15 am to Salmon
You can't pick it off when the WR out jumps the DBs
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:17 am to ipodking
He didn't out jump the DBs. The safety played the ball wrong.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:25 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Chark had 4 guys
Forgetting the bad decision for a moment....why were there 4 guys running with Chark before the ball was even thrown.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:36 am to easy money
Is it just me or does he lock on early?
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:55 am to higgins
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I think a lot of this can be handled in film study. It's only game 2.
He's a 5th year senior. At what point do the excuses finally end?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 11:59 am to easy money
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I liked all of them except for the one to Chark in quadruple coverage
Chark had all of them beat deep.. it was the right read. He just didn't pull the trigger early enough. He needed to throw it a few heartbeats earlier.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:03 pm to cforester821
I'm guessing they're holding back going over the middle until SEC play, although it makes zero sense to me. Slants, crossers, and digs aren't secret to anyone.
While I gave Etling props for being accurate vs BYU, I have to take it away in this game. Several deep passes were underthrown whether on purpose (is what I've seen several say) or not, that will get ate up by conference DBs. After the hot start, he fell off a cliff accuracy wise throwing almost everything wide, too short, or too high.
His pocket presence is very inconsistent, and when we face good DLs he's going to get himself killed because of the young OL.
Hoping State can give us a good measure of the offense when Canada is actually trying.
While I gave Etling props for being accurate vs BYU, I have to take it away in this game. Several deep passes were underthrown whether on purpose (is what I've seen several say) or not, that will get ate up by conference DBs. After the hot start, he fell off a cliff accuracy wise throwing almost everything wide, too short, or too high.
His pocket presence is very inconsistent, and when we face good DLs he's going to get himself killed because of the young OL.
Hoping State can give us a good measure of the offense when Canada is actually trying.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:06 pm to bmy
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Chark had all of them beat deep.. it was the right read. He just didn't pull the trigger early enough. He needed to throw it a few heartbeats earlier.
I think the fairest critique of Etling so far is that you'd like to see him anticipate things a bit earlier. His arm is adequate, but he can make up for any weakness there by anticipating guys being open before it happens. The throw to Stevens on the crossing route was a great job of that, but some of those deeper throws could/should have been uncorked a bit earlier.
That might be a bit nit-picky, but it's actually a sign of relief to be nit-picky to an LSU QB.
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