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Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:53 pm to NoGeaux
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He is a tough kid. But severely limited as a QB.
I'm curious...if Etling is severely limited...what were the two quarterbacks before him?
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:03 pm to Spankem
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I'm curious...if Etling is severely limited...what were the two quarterbacks before him?
They have nearly identical stats
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In 2014 over 11 full games played as a true sophomore Anthony Jennings threw for 1,516 yards, 11 td's and 7 ints
In 2015 over 12 games as a true sophomore Brandon Harris threw for 2,165 yards, 13 td's and 6 ints
In 2016 over 11 games as a 4th year junior Danny Etling threw for 2,123 yards, 11 td's and 5 ints
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:21 pm to the_watcher
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They have nearly identical stats
At this point in time we are playing with the 2017 DE who has one interception for 9 TD's thrown. Those other guys including Etling of 2016 had an interception for roughly every two TD's thrown. Interceptions kill drives, give other teams points and keep the defense on the field much longer. Turnovers directly lead to losing games. DE is not given credit for this by those who argue that he is "severely limited". I would hypothesize that the 2017 DE is a much better overall quarterback than the guys that you posted in terms of not hurting the team which makes his contribution that much better for the team. Neither I, nor anyone else are hypothesizing the he is a great quarterback. Just that, as the OP states, "Etling is better than most people think."
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:47 pm to Spankem
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Those other guys including Etling of 2016 had an interception for roughly every two TD's thrown. Interceptions kill drives, give other teams points and keep the defense on the field much longer. Turnovers directly lead to losing games. DE is not given credit for this by those who argue that he is "severely limited".
How many int's have other teams dropped this season? One massive one against Auburn, at least 3 against Florida, etc, etc.
Know what else kills drives? Leaving the pocket early when it's unnecessary, not going through your progressions, and checking the ball down for 3 yards on third and long. Why does a qb deserve to get "credit" for being timid with the football and being unable to get to the ball to wide receivers down the field? In 2 of the last 3 games, our wr's have caught either 1 total pass or 0 total passes. That's historically bad for any team not running the triple option. How are we going to pick up 3rd and long vs Bama after running the ball twice and only getting a couple yards? We got 6 total first downs last season and scored zero points.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:08 pm to the_watcher
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They have nearly identical stats
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In 2014 over 11 full games played as a true sophomore Anthony Jennings threw for 1,516 yards, 11 td's and 7 ints
In 2015 over 12 games as a true sophomore Brandon Harris threw for 2,165 yards, 13 td's and 6 ints
In 2016 over 11 games as a 4th year junior Danny Etling threw for 2,123 yards, 11 td's and 5 ints
Why didn't you include completion percentage? Oh because it would ruin your narrative that they were identical. But you'll make up a reason for why that doesn't matter.
Brandon Harris had a 53.8% compared to Danny's 59.5%.and Danny had a higher YPA.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:19 pm to bdnc
DANNY CANNOT HIT A WIDE OPEN RECEIVER! FAIL!
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:32 pm to the_watcher
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Know what else kills drives? Leaving the pocket early when it's unnecessary, not going through your progressions, and checking the ball down for 3 yards on third and long.
Can still punt the ball 40 yards and stay ahead on field position
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In 2 of the last 3 games, our wr's have caught either 1 total pass or 0 total passes
Etling hit a receiver in the hands on a beautiful throw into the endzone. Not the qb's fault. Our offense torched Ole Piss for well over 500 yards and you make it sound like a bad thing?
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How are we going to pick up 3rd and long vs Bama after running the ball twice and only getting a couple yards?
This is a Canada run offense, not Cam run. He will use what the defense gives him.
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We got 6 total first downs last season and scored zero points.
We had a tight end coach coordinating and game planning that game. We have one of the hottest coordinators in the country from 2016 scheming for this game. We may not win on offense, but should be better than last year.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:03 pm to the_watcher
“They have identicle stats” lmfao
2017
Etling 9 TDS 1 Int 60% 1,452 yards 156.6 passer rating
Harris 1 TD 8 ints 49.3% 346 yards 72.3 passer rating
2017
Etling 9 TDS 1 Int 60% 1,452 yards 156.6 passer rating
Harris 1 TD 8 ints 49.3% 346 yards 72.3 passer rating
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:06 pm to Madking
They play for the same team... wow LSU is impressive putting out two QB's
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:06 pm to Madking
Could be worse. Could be waaaaay better. Half the random games I watch, the QB just looks sharper, more confident, and makes more plays than DE. Glad we have him and not Harris, but let's not confuse OK with really good. He's not really good.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:12 pm to calcotron
As long as the production is there it doesn’t matter what you think you see.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:25 pm to Madking
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As long as the production is there
LSU passing 2015 VS. SEC:
55% comp. rate
attp. per game 26
rating 120
yds. per game 173
2017:
53% comp. rate
attp. per game 21
rating 136
yds per game 167
Of course the 2017 stats don't include Bama or 3 other SEC games.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 9:07 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Lmao next time try using the actual stats instead of made up fake stats.
LINK
Fake completion rate you posted 53%%
Actual rate 59.2%
Fake rating 136
Actual rating 152.5
Fake yards per game 167
Actual yards per game 201.5
Seriously the anti Etling anti-new regime fans are the same as political media, everything they say is suspect and mostly not true.
LINK
Fake completion rate you posted 53%%
Actual rate 59.2%
Fake rating 136
Actual rating 152.5
Fake yards per game 167
Actual yards per game 201.5
Seriously the anti Etling anti-new regime fans are the same as political media, everything they say is suspect and mostly not true.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 9:45 pm to Spankem
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We had a tight end coach coordinating and game planning that game. We have one of the hottest coordinators in the country from 2016 scheming for this game. We may not win on offense, but should be better than last year.
Canada can’t make Danny a better qb or gameplan around his weaknesses against Bama. At some point Danny is going to have to make a big throw. Chark is going to be shaded and double covered. Also you cant shovel pass and flat route Bama like you did ole miss. They are going to condense the field and make you play in a phone booth. You have to throw in tight quarters and make good reads. Something Danny is horrible at.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:01 pm to Madking
You need to up your reading comprehension.
I clearing pointed out the "SEC" part of my post and they are not fake.
I don't have anything against the kid, but to this point in time there is nothing which distances him from any QB since 2014. Maybe Bama is his breakout. Hell, I hope so.
I clearing pointed out the "SEC" part of my post and they are not fake.
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the anti Etling anti-new regime fans
I don't have anything against the kid, but to this point in time there is nothing which distances him from any QB since 2014. Maybe Bama is his breakout. Hell, I hope so.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:12 pm to Lonnie4LSU
You’re right apologies.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:25 pm to TheCaterpillar
We need to run A LOT of wildcat against Bama to keep them on their toes. If not Etling won't make it through 3 quarters.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 6:50 am to Madking
LINK Navy QB Pass Rating
Please look towards the bottom/ click show passing and observe Zach Abey (156.3) and tell me how much that statistic means. The only stat that matters to me is scoring offense and that is not too good for the tigers. 9 passing touchdowns and a couple of rushing scores is not enough after the weak competition that he has been up against. He has avoided some interceptions, but he also has avoided many touchdown passes. An ultra safe QB does not make someone a good QB and obviously the QB rating does not either. He is serviceable and maybe our only option, but he certainly isn't better than I think.
Please look towards the bottom/ click show passing and observe Zach Abey (156.3) and tell me how much that statistic means. The only stat that matters to me is scoring offense and that is not too good for the tigers. 9 passing touchdowns and a couple of rushing scores is not enough after the weak competition that he has been up against. He has avoided some interceptions, but he also has avoided many touchdown passes. An ultra safe QB does not make someone a good QB and obviously the QB rating does not either. He is serviceable and maybe our only option, but he certainly isn't better than I think.
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 6:54 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:01 am to A1tiger
Navy QB 2017, for those who do not want to click
1 Zach Abey 19/51 37.3% Yds-606 Y/A-11.9 AY/A-9.8 TD-6 Int-5 Pass Rating-156.3
1 Zach Abey 19/51 37.3% Yds-606 Y/A-11.9 AY/A-9.8 TD-6 Int-5 Pass Rating-156.3
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