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re: Espn sec now: LSU ranked too high

Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:27 pm to
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he fell past many more higher profile jobs down to Maryland

LSU didn't even release him until January. Hell, Ree and others were calling the rumors of his departure bullshite into December.

Which "higher profile" jobs were still available at that point?
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11388 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:32 pm to
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I mean do you think that analysis isn’t correct?
It's ridiculous. I'm not sold on O and Ensminger, but saying the offense is over their heads is absolutely insane. Most of us agreed here that Canada's offense was gimmicky, and all that shifting did jack shite for our efficiency.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11388 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:34 pm to
And if LSU is ranked too high, then Miami is astronomically overrated!
Posted by Capo
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2013
1033 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:37 pm to
LSU has fallen off because a few uninformed clowns from ESPN stated a silly belief that LSU isn’t one of the top 25 teams?

We were limited last year with some roster deficiencies and still were 1 game from winning the West. I’d be willing to bet that none of these prognosticators know that, but I do.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:38 pm to
32 dumbass mother frickers upvoted his thread.


Wow.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:47 pm to
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We could barely run it.


Did you actually watch the offense he ran at Pitt? There’s nothing special about. Throwing to offensive linemen, shovel passes, etc is hardly innovative. If he couldn’t teach it, then maybe that’s a reflection of his skills and personality.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:58 pm to
“It was a gimmick and in efficient”

It scored 42 pts a game in 2016 and beat Clemson who had a top10 total defense.

It didn’t work here, but it sure the hell worked the year before and with less talented athletes. I think the jury is still out on why it didn’t work better here.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:00 pm to
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Most of us agreed here that Canada's offense was gimmicky, and all that shifting did jack shite for our efficiency.

After the Troy game, the offense increased shifts and jet sweeps. Total plays per game and rushing yards per game increased, while offensive penalties per game and turnovers per game decreased.

Troy is the one game where Orgeron admitted to eliminating shifts, and we finished with 4 turnovers and 0-9 on 3rd down.

Red zone left a lot to be desired, but the shifts appear to have done a lot for the efficiency of that "gimmicky" offense.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78104 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Throwing to offensive linemen, shovel passes, etc is hardly innovative.


Yeah I see Those things 3-4 times a drive.

It did watch t at Pitt and I watched It work at Pitt.

I can Tell you what we ran looked like we were trying and failing to run what he ran at Pitt. Except you know when o was makin “minor tweaks”
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:03 pm to
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How far has our football program fallen? Debating whether LSU should be in the Top 25 or not. Wow.




Yep! And it took less than 2 seasons.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4091 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:08 pm to
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I mean do you think that analysis isn’t correct?


That LSU with that defense and even a dysfunctional offense is not even worth the 25th ranking. There are teams right now on that list that shouldn't be ranked higher because they don't have a good enough offense or defense. So, no, I don't think that analysis is correct.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:45 pm to
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It was a gimmick

This is what I am most concerned about. I thought this last year as well.
We have talent.....just use it.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:04 pm to
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How far has our football program fallen? Debating whether LSU should be in the Top 25 or not. Wow.

The New Normal......in the Joe Alleva Athletic Department
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:37 am to
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quote:
How far has our football program fallen? Debating whether LSU should be in the Top 25 or not. Wow.



Yep! And it took less than 2 seasons.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:56 am to
No...Canada's offense sucks in the SEC vs big boy defenses.
Posted by Tigerinevergreen
Member since Aug 2018
1068 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:00 am to
Iean, yes I think that analyst was incorrect, and that fact will be proven in about 11 days. Wonder why a #8 ranked team is only a 2.5 to 3 point favorite over what you say should be an unranked team? Probably never crossed your low iq mind.
Posted by Tigerinevergreen
Member since Aug 2018
1068 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:03 am to
Sammy, have you ever thought about coaching? You seem to have the knowledge for it, and certainly the right temperament
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107929 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:03 am to
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Canada's offense sucks in the SEC vs big boy defenses.
Posted by Tigerinevergreen
Member since Aug 2018
1068 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:05 am to
Shhhh. Sammy has it all figured out.
Posted by Tigerinevergreen
Member since Aug 2018
1068 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:06 am to
Pride, are you black or white? Just curious.
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