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re: ESPN Reporting Ware, Simon, Mathieu out for Auburn

Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:07 pm to
All 3.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39552 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:10 pm to
Its college, deal with it gramps. The kids made mistakes.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130727 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:13 pm to
It's a judgement issue, and it is concerning. Three weeks away from the biggest game of their careers, and they can't restrain themselves?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283351 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:17 pm to
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It's a judgement issue, and it is concerning. Three weeks away from the biggest game of their careers, and they can't restrain themselves?


Yeah, I would say shitty judgement is the heart of the matter. They made their bed, unfortunately the whole team has to lay in it.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5739 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:17 pm to
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All 3 or just Ware and Claiborne


All 3, Ware, Mathieu and Simon...NOT Claiborne.
Posted by reed morton
central PA
Member since May 2011
239 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:19 pm to
Other boards have Miles already at fault. These guys know the rules, live with them or bend them. Sometimes you lose. I still believe the loss of one, two, or three players to this team will not matter. BUT, Miles cannot be to blame - a coach - he can't follow and babysit them 24 hours daily. Sometimes independence and success cannot be handled.

Perhaps some of the blame should go to fans, alumni, the university for the "win, win, win expectations" at all costs. This is somewhat to blame for the intense pressure of athletes, coaches, and universities to be successful.

However, rules must be followed and a perfect season could be lost... part of the game ... AND IT IS A GAME!!!!!
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:19 pm to
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The kids made mistakes.


No, this is not a mistake. That is such bullshite.

If I make a calculation error on my income taxes THAT is a mistake.

If I lie about my income on my income taxes, that is NOT a mistake. It is a misbehavior and in that particular case a crime.

Knowingly breaking a rule is not a mistake. It is breaking a rule.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39552 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:20 pm to
This team will crush Auburn and have an extra week to regroup.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283351 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:22 pm to
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Perhaps some of the blame should go to fans, alumni, the university for the "win, win, win expectations" at all costs. This is somewhat to blame for the intense pressure of athletes, coaches, and universities to be successful.


Not at all. These men/kids know the rules, no matter what the rules are. Doesn't matter if you think they are fair or unfair, they knew the rules and willingly broke them with a helluva lot on the line. There are only a few individuals to blame here.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10824 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:29 pm to
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This team will crush Auburn and have an extra week to regroup.


Post of the week.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283351 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:32 pm to
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The kids made mistakes.


No, this is not a mistake. That is such bullshite.


Yep, it's trying to beat the system. Not a bright thing to do during the season, but I assume it means that this team will be on their best behavior from here on out.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5739 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:33 pm to
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Other boards have Miles already at fault. These guys know the rules, live with them or bend them. Sometimes you lose. I still believe the loss of one, two, or three players to this team will not matter. BUT, Miles cannot be to blame - a coach - he can't follow and babysit them 24 hours daily. Sometimes independence and success cannot be handled.

Perhaps some of the blame should go to fans, alumni, the university for the "win, win, win expectations" at all costs. This is somewhat to blame for the intense pressure of athletes, coaches, and universities to be successful.

However, rules must be followed and a perfect season could be lost... part of the game ... AND IT IS A GAME!!!!!


Everyone wants to blame someone other than those at fault. Why is that?

As far as "Perhaps some of the blame should go to fans, alumni, the university", this goes a long way with how these players perceive themselves. Most of the above average athletes have been put in a "demigod" situation since they were young, especially since they were in high school. Most probably feel they're above others and above the rules of others. Unfortunately, they find out the hard way that they are indeed not above the rules, as Ryan Perilloux can attest.

Win, win, win is life...especially after school. Jobs and careers are about winning at all costs. Working for a company is about being part of a team. Thus, the team concept is what these players need to learn. Again, and unfortunately, they have not learned these life lessons. Hopefully, this will be a learning lesson for these players and they can all move on to become better people in the long run.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3064 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:59 pm to
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The kids made mistakes.


No, this is not a mistake. That is such bullshite.

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Kids make bad choices. This one can cost millions-by being picked later in the draft.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15266 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:09 pm to
so the suspension is for just one game? just getting in on the conversation and getting in from work
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40630 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:18 pm to
If this is failed drug test related. I find it disturbing that information has been leaked.

Otherwise my general position is these guys did something, and Miles punished them. It happens. If it happens too much Miles gets canned. Personally I am disappointed, but I have made mistakes myself so I am willing to see how it plays out.
Posted by Lagrange Gator
Contraband Bayou
Member since Nov 2010
1038 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:20 pm to
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This team will crush Auburn and have an extra week to regroup.


UnluckyTiger hit da nail on the head. Douches from AU will be lucky to score more than 10 on this defense. The two positions we loose starters at we are three DEEEEEP!!! Bring on AU!!

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40630 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:23 pm to
In addition, I could careless if a kid is doing drugs. Just don't get caught and embarrass university. I am not sure why we even drug test for non performance enhancers. It reeks of the ugly hypocritical nature of college football, and the "amateur" athletes it pedals.
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
Member since Jan 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:25 pm to
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These are not "mistakes", but pure stupidity and selfishness. Everything that this team has gone through and worked for is going to mess around and go down the fricking crapper if this team is not careful. They have the chance to do something special and are about to piss it away. :angry


You just described a mistake.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40630 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:27 pm to
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You just described a mistake.


Lol
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15266 posts
Posted on 10/19/11 at 9:29 pm to
do it once its a mistake, every time after that is a choice
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