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re: Ensminger says the whole offense couldn’t handle audibles
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:50 am to lsu2006
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:50 am to lsu2006
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But when it's whole groups of players struggling with concepts
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He’s done a good job with that, but can the whole offense handle it? He can. Some of the other positions couldn’t, so we wouldn’t always do it every game."
It’s not whole groups of players. Some people couldn’t handle it, not all.
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:52 am to DBG
That’s entirely on coaching. Good to see E taking the blame, right?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:54 am to DBG
That’s a coaching problem on so many levels.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:55 am to lsudat10
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LSU was preseason ranked based off of these facts, and still was able to pull off a 9-3 regular season record.
Dude. LSU was preseason ranked based off the fact that Auburn, Miami weren't supposed to suck. We upset UGA and finished in 4th place in the SEC.
4th place.
4th.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:55 am to DBG
Why do we struggle with basic offensive concepts when every other college program is fully capable? We can't run a simple screen pass, we can't handle audibles.
I think we need an entirely new offensive coaching staff.
I think we need an entirely new offensive coaching staff.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am to The Pirate King
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It’s not whole groups of players.
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Some of the other positions couldn’t,
I'm not sure where the disconnect is here
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Some people couldn’t handle it, not all.
I never said it was all. But to me "other positions" means several players or multiple groups of other players. Either way, it's concerning.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:00 pm to The Pirate King
Young, inexperienced and immaturity players are always going to be there in college football.
That’s why a lot of these offenses are very stripped down.
I still Think we’re expecting too much out of these players, and it’s holding ournoffense back.
That’s why a lot of these offenses are very stripped down.
I still Think we’re expecting too much out of these players, and it’s holding ournoffense back.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:01 pm to MightyYat
It’s not just being under center
There is still a big difference between what the Saints are doing out of the shotgun and what most college teams are doing.
That gap is closing hutnitsmbecuase the NFL is becoming MORE like college.
Probably because they’re getting 90% of their players from these spread teAms.
There is still a big difference between what the Saints are doing out of the shotgun and what most college teams are doing.
That gap is closing hutnitsmbecuase the NFL is becoming MORE like college.
Probably because they’re getting 90% of their players from these spread teAms.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:02 pm to SammyTiger
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I still Think we’re expecting too much out of these players, and it’s holding ournoffense back.
This was a major issue under Les/Cam as well from my view. Funny that that would continue when you promote the TE coach from that very regime to run the offense.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:02 pm to MightyYat
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My guess is that's why Dillon saw the field so much over guys like Chase and Marshall. Not to mention the constant revolving door at OL. Things should get much better as Burrow will have all spring to work with this unit. We return a ton on offense next year. Specifically OL.
Not trying to bash the coaches are players but what is the fricking disconnect here? Nearly every successful program in this country plugs and plays freshman. At LSU we are lucky if a guy is successful by his junior year.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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They couldn't handle being told to run another play?
Its rocket science
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:05 pm to lsu2006
It’s why I’ve pumped for guys like Briles.
Hell I dont Know why we don’t try and steal one of Clemson’s coordinators.
They make like 800k
Hell I dont Know why we don’t try and steal one of Clemson’s coordinators.
They make like 800k
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:06 pm to MightyYat
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Things should get much better as Burrow will have all spring to work with this unit.
What does this have to do with offensive players too dumb or too "un-coached" to handle the offense? They've had a whole season.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:06 pm to The Pirate King
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Learning the playbook is on the player. You can’t force players to study it. It appeared to me that playing time was given based on preparedness. The problem with that was that we had much less talented players out there in key moments.
IMO some of the problems on offense this year were because NFL coaches (Cregg and Sullivan) were coaching immature college players. They may be great tacticians, but managing kids is a big part of the job
Do you think there's an inability of our coaches to communicate effectively/reach the players? Or do we just have a group of bad apples?
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:06 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Not trying to bash the coaches are players but what is the fricking disconnect here? Nearly every successful program in this country plugs and plays freshman. At LSU we are lucky if a guy is successful by his junior year.
Offensive coaching.
It’s the same reason why LSU guys do so well in the NFL. They don’t get any decent coaching here and are forced to rely purely on raw physical talent and instinct. Then once they hit the NFL, they get that good coaching and excel. It’s why Bama whips our arse when both team mates recruit talent. Their talent gets coached.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:16 pm to DBG
I see this as a problem for both the players and coaches. As players, you need to put your arse in the film room, your nose in the playbook and know all the plays, route combos and checks. As coaches, it's your job to hold them accountable and not let the ones who don't know the playbook get in the game.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:16 pm to Goldrush25
I think it is sort of like why we see a group of highly talented kids out of high school never quite make it at the next level. They did not need to worry about learning very much in high school, but need to now and struggle with a modern offense that sometimes requires adjustments on the fly. Do you think that other teams can see in the film which people don't seem to be able to adjust, and so design their plan to confuse those guys? Leaving us the option of people who know what to do, but lack some of the actual talent? It does not matter how good a coach you are if your players can't figure out what to do and figure it out quickly under pressure.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:20 pm to DBG
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Steve Ensminger asked if there's anything he wishes he could have done better personally this season.
He looks up and thinks for a second.
"No. Not really." #LSU
The previous quote should tell anyone, everything they need to know.
This right there shows you why people weren't happy with the hire. Theres not a single game that you would have heard Aranda make that statement and Ensminger cant find a single moment from the entire season.
Also, this was supposed to be a bowl presser for the offense, not a pr campaign to keep the OC.
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does not matter how good a coach you are if your players can't figure out what to do and figure it out quickly under pressure.
Players change every 3 years, coaches haven't been completely replaced yet.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:24 pm to dinosaur
Except more and more of college football is taking these decisions out of their players hands.
Look at RPOs
Its a one read play. Is the read man sinking into coverage or coming up for the run.
Do the opposite he’s doing.
And RPOs are like 85% of some teams offenses.
They also make more and more Audibles from the sideline.
Look at RPOs
Its a one read play. Is the read man sinking into coverage or coming up for the run.
Do the opposite he’s doing.
And RPOs are like 85% of some teams offenses.
They also make more and more Audibles from the sideline.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:27 pm to DBG
Regardless if it's the player's inability to learn or the coach's inability to teach, it was a senseless statement for Ensminger to make.
If pressed for a statement on the matter he could have provided a dozen different answers that didn't imply stupidity as the reason.
If pressed for a statement on the matter he could have provided a dozen different answers that didn't imply stupidity as the reason.
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