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re: Ensminger: "I have no ego. I want help.”
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:29 am to tandrews37
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:29 am to tandrews37
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It was almost kind of sad when he cracked the joke about hiring Brady was the worst thing he's ever done.
That is a man that is clearly very comfortable with his lot in life that he can make a joke about the guy he is grooming to be his replacement.
That’s nice and all but not exactly traits I want in my OC. Especially considering he was hand picked by the head coach and showered with praise all offseason as the man that shared his vision on offense.
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:30 am to Chimlim
quote:Only if he thinks he needs it. It is complicated.
Joe will have the play ready.
Steve will approve of the play.
O will approve of the play that Steve approved?
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:30 am to Damone
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If it doesn't the man who will be cast with all of the blame, and who will be left on the chopping block, will be the one who cares most about the LSU program
Ensminger should get 0% of the blame. If the offense shows little, to no improvement it is 100% on Orgeron. If the offense is greatly improved then 100% of the credit should go to Orgeron for making the hire of Brady/Ensminger to get the offense right.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:31 am to tandrews37
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That is a man that is clearly very comfortable with his lot in life that he can make a joke about the guy he is grooming to be his replacement.
I'd be comfortable too if I could make the same salary but have someone else do all of my work.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:32 am to Damone
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If it doesn't the man who will be cast with all of the blame, and who will be left on the chopping block, will be the one who cares most about the LSU program.
The propaganda bus will just roll right over another victim if it’s not. O is the common denominator but yet to be really called to court for it
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:33 am to TH03
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What? It's exactly what we wanted Miles to do for years. If it's a disaster this year, my opinion will change, but everything points to a successful offense this year.
i hope this works, but it's possible this works next year b/c of Burrow and then we face the 2014-2016 LSU offensive issues
i do agree with your point in giving Ensminger props b/c a lot of coaches would have quit by now. he's clearly in over his head, as we all expected a year ago. however, he admits that and maybe this weird amalgamation will work and Steve can demote himself and support Brady as OC in 2020 onward
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:33 am to Freauxzen
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Orgeron replied "But I don't have the balls to actually hire a spread focus and top tier OC, so I'll keep you as a yes man for now."
You get downvoted to hell, but no one can answer why we didn't just go and get the guy for this offense that the defensive line coach says he wants so much.
He did this when he was at OM; he gets a coach and then forces an offense on him, whereas most every other coach will find a guy that knows how to run what he wants. Makes no sense, unless finding a loyalist is more important to him.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:33 am to Lester Earl
quote:No, it said if Steve wants it he'll take it. Meaning he may call his own play in lieu of what Brady had ready. Reading comprehension!
And If he has the next play ready, that is the play. Lol. This isn’t hard to understand
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:35 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I think o’s willingness to make changes when something isn’t working is a better quality.
If things go well and the offense finally turns the corner he should get a lot of credit for identifying Brady.
If things go well and the offense finally turns the corner he should get a lot of credit for identifying Brady.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:39 am to Freauxzen
Those two running the offense as Ensminger a former Saint QB and Joe working under Peyton with Brees is going to be the perfect storm for defenses to handle this year. JS
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:39 am to SammyTiger
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I think o’s willingness to make changes when something isn’t working is a better quality.
that sounds like a great trait but he's overhauling our offense every year and doing it, often, by forcing concepts on our OC they don't like/understand. this also causes major issues with recruiting, b/c we need to recruit guys today for this offense in 2021
the reason Clemson has been so successful without #1 classes every year is b/c they have a system and recruit to that system
the reason why LSU, under Miles, would never have field results that matched our recruiting, was b/c we changed philosophies often and guys we recruited 2-3 years prior no longer fit. this was very common on the OL but also was seen at RB (with any speed/shifty back) and WR (with the 6-0 fast guy outside of 2013)
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:41 am to tigburls
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Joe Brady is an unknown quantity whose experience is as a GA at Penn St and watching Sean Payton run his offense. Forgive me if I think it's crazy he is now basically our de facto OC.
It’s possible to believe this and still be excited. At least we are clearly trying something different. I suspect O and E gradually gave Brady more and more responsibility once he got here and showed he could handle it.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:41 am to SammyTiger
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I think o’s willingness to make changes when something isn’t working is a better quality
Yes. Can't really deny this. If he makes unsuccessful change after unsuccessful change though, then it's really no better than not making a change at all. I hope the hiring of Brady turns out to be the key, but if it isn't he deserves the blame for it and the rope would be running out.
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If things go well and the offense finally turns the corner he should get a lot of credit for identifying Brady
Absolutely. Anybody who says O gets 100% of the credit for bringing in a successful offense also has to be willing to give him 100% of the blame if it doesn't work. The problem I have is with the people who only want to give it one way.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:43 am to ProjectP2294
heh, true didn't think of it like that.
If O wanted to give me 800K and bring in someone else to do my job and pay them half of what I am getting, I'd probably have a lot of humility as well.
If O wanted to give me 800K and bring in someone else to do my job and pay them half of what I am getting, I'd probably have a lot of humility as well.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
I understand what you’re saying
But recruiting to a system that is fundamental issues is always going to lead to those fundamental issue.
A modern college offense needs to be learned quickly and have flexibility for personnel.
Look at Clemson.
Watson and Lawrence are not similar QBs and their offense is still chugging along.
They had major contributions from multiple freshmen who ran the offense efficiently enough to annihilate Alabama.
But recruiting to a system that is fundamental issues is always going to lead to those fundamental issue.
A modern college offense needs to be learned quickly and have flexibility for personnel.
Look at Clemson.
Watson and Lawrence are not similar QBs and their offense is still chugging along.
They had major contributions from multiple freshmen who ran the offense efficiently enough to annihilate Alabama.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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the reason why LSU, under Miles, would never have field results that matched our recruiting, was b/c we changed philosophies often and guys we recruited 2-3 years prior no longer fit
I disagree. The problem was Les recruited players for the philosophy he “wanted” to run, and at the first sign of growing pains, he jumped back to 2 tight ends and pounding the ball.
Then some new wrinkle would appear in the Bama game, never to be seen again.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:45 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I think Brady is the best possible hire if you want a PGC/OC-in waiting situation
Now no one is forcing us into that situation, And we could have always just hired an OC that runs an RPO HUNH Offense (K Briles?)
Now no one is forcing us into that situation, And we could have always just hired an OC that runs an RPO HUNH Offense (K Briles?)
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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reason why LSU, under Miles, would never have field results that matched our recruiting, was b/c we changed philosophies often
Wut? Miles changed offensive philosophy? When the eff did that happen? I know he TALKED about changing the O every offseason, but I’m pretty sure he was fired because he NEVER DID.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:47 am to BilJ
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No I’m sorry you must accept Joe Brady is the greatest offensive mind in the game. I don’t know why you have a tough time accepting this, it’s not like O has built up someone’s offensive prowess heading into the season before or anything...
We do this every year with a new coach, heap ridiculous expectations on to him.
Last year Cregg was supposed to turn this offensive line into the '99 Denver Broncos.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:49 am to Goldrush25
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Last year Cregg was supposed to turn this offensive line into the '99 Denver Broncos.
I think it Was the 2015 Broncos or whichever won the Super Bowl.
But it’s pretty clear that Brady has more say that Crete.
And I’ll say this Cregg looks like a better hire now that we’ll be running a shite ton more Zone blocking plays. Both in the RPO and run game.
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