re: Ensminger: "I have no ego. I want help.”

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I didn't say otherwise. I'm simply pointing out that there were people on here that were not a fan of the hire because of what I listed.

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I don't remember anyone being opposed to our hiring of Aranda.

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Hop in a time machine

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That's where you're living, dude

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t that so much worse than 3 coordinators in 4 years, with the 4th year being a quasi OC who installs a new system and offers play suggestions to the "actual" OC who then decides whether to use them or not

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Yes I think that it is. I think that what's happening right now is best for everybody concerned. You act like it's completely out of left field and nobody has employed a passing game coordinator before. Steve is almost ready to retire and in a year or two when he does Brady will be there to take over.

How is that so far above your head that you can't grasp it? Not just your head. There's about 10 posters here that can't grasp the concept of grooming your replacement for when you hang it up. It's totally above their heads. I don't know why it would surprise anyone the typical nega has the mentality of a 10 year old.

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Admitting that and addressing it is refreshing in comparison to a certain mentality we lived with for a decade

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Exactly.

None of us knows everything in our field of expertise. A willingness to absorb new information and use it is the hallmark of a confident person and a smart person.

Only idiots think they can't learn something new and apply it.

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Hop in a time machine and go back to December 2016 and float the idea of O being hired and naming E as his OC with the caveat that a guy two years removed from being GA at Penn State would have significant say in the offense.

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I get that you want to be negative but, it's actually 3 years removed and.............not for nothing.......but he had a significant say in an NFL offense IMMEDIATELY after being a GA at PSU.

And, I don't think any of us consider the Saints HC to be an idiot.

I don’t know what will happen this year or how long it will take to gel, but this thread will provide some great quotes if it goes well.

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The max protect stuff was the easiest attempt at protecting the QB. Installing the spread, midway through the season, with a "new" QB, and decimated O line would have been foolish imho (and I wanted the spread).

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Sullivan wasn't suppose to install a spread midway through the season. He, along with Coach O and E were suppose to get that new system in before the season started against Miami. What annoyed me what that O&E said they wanted a spread RPO system, but then they hire an old school guy in Sullivan to be the PGC. It was just like Miles. Saying you want to do one thing, but the decisions pointing to something completely different.

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Under Sean Payton for a portion of it. 

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He spent two years as an analyst. That's essentially the college version of a GA.

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The Saints seem to have a pretty decent offense from time to time.

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Exactly... Sean Peyton and Drew Brees have been running a record breaking offense long b4 Brady arrived. And if you really want to look at it, the Saints have moved from a spread offense to a more traditional offense in the last few years. So it isn't like Brady help the saints with all these new spread concepts.

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FWIW, I am glad we didn't use the myriad of negatives (he is young, inexperienced, coached in the "Big Slow" etc.) that could have been applied to Aranda to stop us from hiring him. I think he has been a pretty good hire.

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When Aranda got hired to be a LB coach at Houston in 2002 he had more experience coaching than Brady currently does. By the time LSU got Aranda, he was considered as one of the best up and coming DC's in the nation, and he had proved it with Wisconsin. In his three years at Wisconsin, they had a top 20 total defense each year, with top five performances in individual categories such as scoring defense. Two out of those three years he also produced the best LB in the big 10. Keep in mind he did all that with a bunch of 3* white boys. To compare Brady to Aranda in terms of inexperience is foolish.

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I don’t know what will happen this year or how long it will take to gel, but this thread will provide some great quotes if it goes well.

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Kinda like your quotes scoffing at people and calling them negative for reacting to the mere mention that E could possibly be named OC last year.

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Look at their 12’ team when they really burst on the scene that year they beat LSU in the chik fila bowl. Littered with nfl players that clearly were not just recruited to play in a system

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So were the elite programs just that wrong about all of their players, or do you think maybe they know how to develop players and put them into position for success.

They've had too many recruiting classes out of the top 10 to dismiss it as simply exceptional talent evaluation (which they do have). They're developing players better and recruiting for the system better than pretty much any other program out there. That's coaching.

propaganda machine says the taysom hills plays were all him! He traded those plays for sean's secrets of the screen game