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ED taught us the CEO coaching model can work, he's just not capable of running it
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:40 pm
To make it work you have to hire the right coordinators and specialists for the job. He sold us on taking a lower salary to we could spend money to hire the best. Does that work? Well, we won a natty in 2019 with the right staff for our situation. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to replicate that since because he's shown he doesn't really know how to evaluate or hire the right coordinators. Really, he only made one good hire since he's been here: Brady. Even a dead clock is right twice a day. The others: Canada, Pelini, Linehan, and now even Peetz, Mangas and Daronte Jones show O is batting .140. Not a strong case for keeping him.
What's worse is he knew his job was on the line this year and yet still failed to do what he promised he would. He failed because he's just not capable of doing it.
What's worse is he knew his job was on the line this year and yet still failed to do what he promised he would. He failed because he's just not capable of doing it.
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:42 pm to jbraua
No, no, no, no
You don’t hire someone who can’t see issues that arise either in season or in game and can’t give a lending hand to help correct such issues.
Say you hit a home run hire at one coordinator spot. As soon as they leave to greener pastures, you are back to square 1.
You don’t hire someone who can’t see issues that arise either in season or in game and can’t give a lending hand to help correct such issues.
Say you hit a home run hire at one coordinator spot. As soon as they leave to greener pastures, you are back to square 1.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:43 pm to jbraua
I never want a CEO coach ever again. If we have to rely on top coordinators I’m good. I want a coach who excels on one side of the ball and gets the best coordinator for the other side of the ball.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:44 pm to jbraua
The problem with the "hire the best coordinators and be a CEO" model is that the best coordinators will almost assuredly leave eventually
and if you don't hit every time, you end up where we are the past 2 seasons
many said this was the problem in the very beginning
and if you don't hit every time, you end up where we are the past 2 seasons
many said this was the problem in the very beginning
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:44 pm to jbraua
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To make it work you have to hire the right coordinators and specialists for the job.
And you have to hold a gun to their head to keep them or it won't work longterm. We are seeing similar issues at the model CEO program, Clemson.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:44 pm to jbraua
It can work if you somehow get 2 elite coordinators at the same time , but is not sustainable. Great coordinators move on quickly, bad ones stay as long as you let them. And the longer you go without success, the harder it will be to get the good coordinators to come. Players are constantly learning new systems/terminology, you will get tons of transfers, and will make recruiting tougher without the stability and knowing what system they are getting into.
This was never the plan, but Alleva tried to spin it that way when he kept tripping over himself in the coaching search, got embarrassed and tried to save face by making an immediate hire when UT stole Herman. They gave it to O to keep Aranda but Kiffin as OC was a pipe dream. Giving the head coach job to Aranda wouldve made way more sense. then you at least have one side of the ball locked up.
This was never the plan, but Alleva tried to spin it that way when he kept tripping over himself in the coaching search, got embarrassed and tried to save face by making an immediate hire when UT stole Herman. They gave it to O to keep Aranda but Kiffin as OC was a pipe dream. Giving the head coach job to Aranda wouldve made way more sense. then you at least have one side of the ball locked up.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:45 pm to jbraua
we learned anything but that. 2019 was the perfect storm. you can't count on that every year.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:46 pm to jbraua
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the CEO coaching model can work
I don't think it can. I think it's an asinine assertion to begin with. A CEO isn't just responsible for "hiring the best people and letting them have free reign to do whatever they want".
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:47 pm to Salmon
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and if you don't hit every time, you end up where we are the past 2 seasons
many said this was the problem in the very beginning
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:47 pm to jbraua
We have said from Day 1 that this approach was not sustainable.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:48 pm to Salmon
pretty much went to bed repeating this mantra in 2016. felt like i was taking crazy pills.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:51 pm to jbraua
I disagree. You must have a HC that understands how to build and sustain a program.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:55 pm to 1999
look they're all effectively CEOs
this one was flawed from the beginning because it was "yeah I'm going to hire guys better than me" its just not sustainable because one miss yields devastating results.
Ed has no vision or overall philosophy on either side of the ball to fall back on when shite hits the wall, he just tries to emulate better coaches than him, mostly Pete. So anytime there's a new hire, its basically a complete overhaul.
this one was flawed from the beginning because it was "yeah I'm going to hire guys better than me" its just not sustainable because one miss yields devastating results.
Ed has no vision or overall philosophy on either side of the ball to fall back on when shite hits the wall, he just tries to emulate better coaches than him, mostly Pete. So anytime there's a new hire, its basically a complete overhaul.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:57 pm to jbraua
The CEO model won't work unless you have a Brent Venables who has no desire to move up, which is very rare. Relying on top coordinators on both sides of the ball is not sustainable, whether they are good or bad. We're finding that out now.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:58 pm to jbraua
In order for the CEO coaching model to work, it requires your CEO to step in and put forest fires out when needed. A good CEO can do every job on the staff, but he shouldnt have to. Coach O cant take over and win a game when we need it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:13 pm to 1999
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:20 pm to jbraua
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ED taught us the CEO coaching model can work, he's just not capable of running it
At some point there was a breakdown between having the best/highest paid coordinators in the country, and actually being able to higher those coordinators.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:34 pm to Kingpenm3
So much goes into a hire it’s just not as simple as the folks that thought the model was sound chose to believe
As Freeman showed last year, just being the highest bidder doesn’t always get you the coach.
As Freeman showed last year, just being the highest bidder doesn’t always get you the coach.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:38 pm to jbraua
I don’t think the model is sustainable for anyone unless you have two elite coordinators willing to stay long term and not jump to bigger and better things, which is a unicorn in today’s world. You’re asking someone to cap their salary at 1-2 mill instead of 8-9
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:43 pm to BilJ
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