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re: Ed Orgeron and our fan base.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:03 am to extremelsu
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:03 am to extremelsu
…..because they constantly asked him about it?
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:04 am to Frogman93
How is 9-3 impressive? What do the experts predictions of going 6-6 have to do with 2018 being good. They were predicted to go 6-6 because ed was recognized as a terrible head coach at the time
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:05 am to Madking
Let me tell you where the “Woody hired Pelini” bull shite came from because I witnessed it’s creation. . Some ranter made the assertion that even though Woody passed on Pelini at Washington and had only known him through their time at LSU together that Pelini had to be hired by Woody because he read somewhere that Woody asked Pelini about a coach he hired at Washington. That’s where the story comes from and these idiots have grown the story and added a ton of make believe onto it. Woody didn’t hire Pelini, Orgeron did and he didn’t interview him because the hire pissed of multiple coaches and players so he quickly made the hire before the rift got back to Woody who was none too pleased when he found out about the entire process. The entire narrative about Woody and Pelini is a total lie.
Yeahhhhhh I don’t really believe a damn bit of that. I’ve heard the Woodward Pelini push from people in the program. Loooong before I ever stepped into tRant.
Yeahhhhhh I don’t really believe a damn bit of that. I’ve heard the Woodward Pelini push from people in the program. Loooong before I ever stepped into tRant.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:05 am to RummelTiger
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Every fan base has their mouth breathers that just like to be heard, no matter how wrong they are. They are typically sidewalk fans who have only stepped foot on campus for games and have no other connection to the school besides that.
The double-edged sword for this board is that it's so popular that we have to deal with more of them than other schools, as they have a forum to post their crazy rants.
That said, I think there's only a very small portion of the fan base that feels the way you described. As I'm sure you are aware, people normally bitch more online rather than praise, so we just see more of their posts as opposed to the people that are happy with, like, or love Orgeron.
this exact same line of thought was used to defend Miles for years, just fwiw
even when people would come on here to talk about how he was a scumbag in his personal life. then rantards would talk about how one reason we HAD to keep Miles was b/c he was such a good guy
the reason O has detractors is because he's a limited HC. that's going to cause instability. 2019 was an amazing year, but 2018 shows O can take a great team and make it mediocre.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:08 am to Frogman93
I didn’t say you made it up I said I was in the thread when it was made up. And you don’t have t believe it I couldn’t care less.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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2019 was an amazing year, but 2018 shows O can take a great team and make it mediocre.
It’s a bit of a stretch to say 2018 was a great team.
They had talent but they were not championship caliber yet. Burrow showed promise but he hadn’t taken the step to being elite yet.
And I’m not saying this because I’m making excuses for Ed, but I think we have to be fair here.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:10 am to josh336
He far exceeded their expectations. He’s done that a lot at LSU but jerks like you refuse to recognize that.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:11 am to Frogman93
quote:It's about as often as people say he shouldn't get blamed for 2020. Which is what you are doing.
You’d be surprised how often people say he “lucked out” in 2019.
quote:He had a top 10 team talent wise in the country. He coaches at LSU. Are we supposed to give him a cookie because he went 9 and 3 in the regular season? Honestly 9 and 3 should be the floor for pretty much every season at LSU. To get to 9-3 you have to win one out of our hardest four games and not lose to teams that you are clearly more talented than.
Yet 2018 was arguably just as impressive considering all the “experts” picked LSU to go 6-6 and yet they finished ranked in the top 10.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:13 am to TheDeathValley
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I didn’t hate CEO, I hated that LSU hired him.
this is also another thing. How F King/Alleva went about lying to everyone to get O as HC is always going to rub some people wrong
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:13 am to memphis tiger
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2019 was an amazing year, but 2018 shows O can take a great team and make it mediocre.
It’s a bit of a stretch to say 2018 was a great team.
They had talent but they were not championship caliber yet. Burrow showed promise but he hadn’t taken the step to being elite yet.
And I’m not saying this because I’m making excuses for Ed, but I think we have to be fair here.
How was 2018 great made mediocre? They were picked like 4th in the west. They easily exceeded expectations. Much like Ed O has done here at LSU.
2019 was an amazing year, but 2018 shows O can take a great team and make it mediocre.
It’s a bit of a stretch to say 2018 was a great team.
They had talent but they were not championship caliber yet. Burrow showed promise but he hadn’t taken the step to being elite yet.
And I’m not saying this because I’m making excuses for Ed, but I think we have to be fair here.
How was 2018 great made mediocre? They were picked like 4th in the west. They easily exceeded expectations. Much like Ed O has done here at LSU.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:14 am to memphis tiger
quote:I also think it's fair to point out that if we had some legit offensive coaching that year instead of the AARP rotary club, we would have won 11 games.
They had talent but they were not championship caliber yet. Burrow showed promise but he hadn’t taken the step to being elite yet.
And I’m not saying this because I’m making excuses for Ed, but I think we have to be fair here.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:16 am to Frogman93
You’re basing everything about 2018 off of media predictions which are almost always wrong.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:16 am to Frogman93
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How was 2018 great made mediocre
I didn’t say it was.
It was an ok team that did OK things. Ed certainly didn’t make them better and coach them into playing above their level.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:17 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
Apparently people who actually know football and analyze thought differently about LSU in 2018. Especially considering the absolutely BRUTAL schedule we had that year. That team also should’ve been 10-2 if it were t for that BS at TAMU. Are we supposed to shite on him when he finishes top 10? Because that’s what you’re doing. ESPECIALLY considering where the program was the previous few years.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:18 am to Frogman93
There is a portion of the fan base that will never like him because they were adamantly against the hire and they don’t like to be proven wrong. Even when he does good they will just wait for him to mess up again, which he eventually will, and they will come back and say I never liked him and he was a horrible hire from the start blah blah blah.
You saw this with Les. People made their mind up about him after the Tennessee game in 2005 and no matter what he did they were never going to like him.
You saw this with Les. People made their mind up about him after the Tennessee game in 2005 and no matter what he did they were never going to like him.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:18 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I also think it's fair to point out that if we had some legit offensive coaching that year instead of the AARP rotary club, we would have won 11 games.
Possible. But who was responsible for the offensive coaching staff?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:20 am to memphis tiger
I didn’t say it was.
It was an ok team that did OK things. Ed certainly didn’t make them better and coach them into playing above their level.
Finishing in a NY6 bowl and a top 10 finish in a season where you legitimately had the hardest schedule in the country is just OK? Jesus…..
It was an ok team that did OK things. Ed certainly didn’t make them better and coach them into playing above their level.
Finishing in a NY6 bowl and a top 10 finish in a season where you legitimately had the hardest schedule in the country is just OK? Jesus…..
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:20 am to Frogman93
What are you talking about, LSU was #25 pre season in 2018. No 6-6 prediction gets you a top 25 preseason ranking. Stop making shite up like saying that because someone says the coaching job in 2018 wasn’t on par with 2019 they’re shitting on O. WTF is wrong with you?
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:21 am
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:20 am to Frogman93
quote:See this is where I don't buy it. You're close enough to the program to be hearing all of this stuff, clearly a die-hard LSU and Coach O fan, and yet only made and account in the premier LSU sports message board 10 days ago?
I’ve heard the Woodward Pelini push from people in the program. Loooong before I ever stepped into tRant.
Yeah you're either someone's alter or you're here to push a narrative. You're not here for actual discussion. If you were you would have made an account years ago.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:21 am to Frogman93
I think him saying that was just a cover up to make the situation seem a little better.
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