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Easily the funniest thing to me as a long term fan RE: Posi and Negas
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:39 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:39 am
Is this.
When it was obvious Cholly Mac was done, he still had his "posis" to the end.
Stovall had HUGE posis till the end and when the SOB had the upward feint season of 8-3-1, they were totally blinded. He should have been fired in 81.....but nope. Instead, we had to wait for the 83 train wreck.
Archer. The same. The signs were there in 88 but you can't fire a guy who is 8-4 of course. Then, the fruits of HIS labor showed in 89. But nope. "He just won 10 games 2 years ago" mantra was out. So. We had to train wreck in 90.
And THAT one is a big deal because THEN
We hired Hallman who not only wasn't very good, but showed up to a team that had basically not recruited in 2 years. VERY bad combo. I can tell you this. EVEN HALLMAN had people arguing to keep him. "Can't just keep firing coaches.....gotta built a program" arguments.
Dinardo? Yeah. This dude had people riding his jock as hard as people rode Miles' jock. No. I'm not comparing their results. But, folks like Bill D in the infancy of the internet were out of their minds that we wanted him gone. OUT OF THEIR frickING MINDS. You don't know ANY pumpers like Bill D and his partners.
And you all know our recent history.
And, NONE of the arguments are new. If you wanted any of the above gone, you weren't a "real fan". You should "support our coach" blah blah blah.
Oh. Everyone says in HINDSIGHT they knew these dudes had to go. But that's just revisionist bull shite. Kinda like how all the Bee Gees and Vanilla Ice fans apparently died.
When it was obvious Cholly Mac was done, he still had his "posis" to the end.
Stovall had HUGE posis till the end and when the SOB had the upward feint season of 8-3-1, they were totally blinded. He should have been fired in 81.....but nope. Instead, we had to wait for the 83 train wreck.
Archer. The same. The signs were there in 88 but you can't fire a guy who is 8-4 of course. Then, the fruits of HIS labor showed in 89. But nope. "He just won 10 games 2 years ago" mantra was out. So. We had to train wreck in 90.
And THAT one is a big deal because THEN
We hired Hallman who not only wasn't very good, but showed up to a team that had basically not recruited in 2 years. VERY bad combo. I can tell you this. EVEN HALLMAN had people arguing to keep him. "Can't just keep firing coaches.....gotta built a program" arguments.
Dinardo? Yeah. This dude had people riding his jock as hard as people rode Miles' jock. No. I'm not comparing their results. But, folks like Bill D in the infancy of the internet were out of their minds that we wanted him gone. OUT OF THEIR frickING MINDS. You don't know ANY pumpers like Bill D and his partners.
And you all know our recent history.
And, NONE of the arguments are new. If you wanted any of the above gone, you weren't a "real fan". You should "support our coach" blah blah blah.
Oh. Everyone says in HINDSIGHT they knew these dudes had to go. But that's just revisionist bull shite. Kinda like how all the Bee Gees and Vanilla Ice fans apparently died.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:41 am to ShortyRob
There are no posis and negas. There are head coach fans and LSU fans.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:42 am to ShortyRob
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Kinda like how all the Bee Gees and Vanilla Ice fans apparently died.
Perfectly put.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:43 am to theunknownknight
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Cliffs?
Don't believe in em.
I'm a reader and a writer.
Digest all info or none.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:44 am to ShortyRob
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Kinda like how all the Bee Gees and Vanilla Ice fans apparently died.
Don't dare lump the Bee Gees into the same category as 1 hit wonder Vanilla Ice. The Bee Gees actually had talent and had some success over different genres of music. Unfortunately, they were the biggest disco stars so they took the brunt of the blame when that style went out.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:46 am to Choupique19
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Don't dare lump the Bee Gees into the same category as 1 hit wonder Vanilla Ice. The Bee Gees actually had talent and had some success over different genres of music.
Just using them in the fact that they both sold millions of records......yet........you can't find anyone who bought them.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:06 am to Choupique19
We have an alive one!!!
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:06 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:19 am to Choupique19
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1 hit wonder Vanilla Ice
C'mon man!
Life is just a fantasy.
Oh yea...In my dreams I envision myself at the ocean,
Beautiful girls rubbing me down with the lotion.
Lyricologist and rapper extrodanaire right there.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:21 am to Choupique19
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:22 am to ShortyRob
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Stovall had HUGE posis till the end and when the SOB had the upward feint season of 8-3-1, they were totally blinded.
So, in your world, it would have been better for LSU to have gone 2-10 or 3-9 that year?
Good to know.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:23 am to ShortyRob
quote:I love the damn Bee Gees, and Les Miles.
you can't find anyone who bought them.
You play Stayin Alive at any function and there becomes a legitimate want to dance your arse off.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:25 am to Ace Midnight
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So, in your world, it would have been better for LSU to have gone 2-10 or 3-9 that year?
Good to know.
We've covered this. I'm a long term LSU fan. Immediate gratification for myself that creates longer term damage to the program isn't my thing.
Keeping Stovall the extra year was damaging.
4 years of Archer recruiting was CATSTROPHIC.
Besides. We already covered this also. You admit you wanted Hallman gone.
THAT means you recognized that Hallman was bad for the program.
And THAT means that if you hoped he would do something to extend the damage, you were FOR him harming the program further.
You don't get to dance on that pin no matter how hard you try.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:26 am to ShortyRob
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Just using them in the fact that they both sold millions of records......yet........you can't find anyone who bought them.
Now that makes sense. My apologies.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:28 am to ShortyRob
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You admit you wanted Hallman gone.
For losing. I didn't want the team to lose to justify firing him, like you (and others) apparently did.
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You don't get to dance on that pin no matter how hard you try.
Projection. YOU can't root against the team (for whatever reason makes sense in your mind), and pretend to be a fan.
We'll just have to continue to disagree.
(I would have KILLED for Curley to go undefeated in 1994, period.)
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:31 am to ShortyRob
I don’t know you Shorty..but I think we could become buddies
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:45 am to Ace Midnight
quote:False. I already knew he needed to be fired and that he was damaging the program. As did you.
For losing. I didn't want the team to lose to justify firing him, like you (and others) apparently did.
So, I didn't want him to BARELY save himself so he could damage us more.
Nice try though.
quote:Rooting for things to happen that would cause a person to damage your program more is literally ROOTING AGAINST YOUR TEAM.
Projection. YOU can't root against the team (for whatever reason makes sense in your mind), and pretend to be a fan.
quote:When he opened 1-4, if you CONTINUED to root for that, YOU were rooting AGAINST LSU.
would have KILLED for Curley to go undefeated in 1994, period.)
There is no avoiding that reality. No matter how hard you try. Those of us that at that point realized it was better for LSU if he just collapsed were the ones actually rooting FOR LSU.
YOU were rooting for immediate gratification. Yours was a selfish fandom.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:45 am to Ace Midnight
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I didn't want the team to lose to justify firing him
This is my position now. I will never root for LSU to lose, no matter how I feel about the coaching staff. I would much rather be wrong and see them do well than be right and see the team lose.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:46 am to TigerLunatik
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This is my position now. I will never root for LSU to lose, no matter how I feel about the coaching staff. I would much rather be wrong and see them do well than be right and see the team lose.
Obviously.
But hey. Let's say O starts out 0-5. Then what are you doing?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:50 am to ShortyRob
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When it was obvious Cholly Mac was done, he still had his "posis" to the end.
Is that picture under your username a self portrait?
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