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re: Early Departure Prediction
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:21 am to GatorRaiderBait
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:21 am to GatorRaiderBait
quote:
LOL Moss isn’t going anywhere
Moss has been in college for four years.
He’s lost one season to transfer & another to injury.
I assume he’s set to graduate on time.
I’d be shocked if he came back after the season he’s had & the turnover that is going to occur at QB
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:24 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Jefferson 100%
Chaisson 100%
Delpit 100%
CEH 80%
Moss 80%
Stevens 70%
Phillips 70%
Queen 65%
Ingram 60%
Charles 60%
Cush 50%
Logan 30%
Farrell 30%
Shelvin 30%
Deculus 30%
Vincent 15%
Pretty good breakdown IMO. Not sure Ingram should be 60%, more like 40% but who knows.
I'm thinking if these guys have good people to advise them, they'll look at the grade they get and make a decision based on where they likely end up.
My take, 1st round grade should be a definite, second more of a highly likely, third should be dictated by your needs (some may have family in near desperate situations). Anything lower is a stay unless there is a dire situation.
Not sure if that's the right way to look at it but that's the way I would advise someone I knew
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:26 am to Da Cooyon
I think of this list, the one that, both, the team and the player, would benefit the most from by staying is Cush. It can't be overstated how huge it would be to have his experience with MB coming in as a first year starter. I don't think Cush gets higher than a 5th/6th round grade because the position he plays is just not valued in the draft like others, and I don't think he is going to put up huge combine measurables that he would need to, in order, to change his draft grade.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:27 am to mdomingue
I can’t imagine Queen with project very high. He has some holes in his game and has been exposed a few times.
No, I don’t think he is a bad player, just comparing to other LB prospects.
No, I don’t think he is a bad player, just comparing to other LB prospects.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:28 am to Janky
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You don't Jefferson could become a 1st round receiver?
Well, he could be one this year.
Who’s definitely in front of him? Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb, kid from Colorado (maybe). If 5 receivers go in the 1st, he could be #4 or #5. He’s a first round talent today and the only thing that would keep him out would be whoever is projected in front of him.
88 catches and 14 TDs in the SEC in an NFL offense is plenty of tape. He’s got the size, speed and all the physical tools, and he’s as polished and as fluid a route runner that we’ve had since OBJ. He’s probably only behind Jeudy in that regard. I’m just not seeing what aspect of his game improves playing one more season when his production is almost certain to decline (no Burrow and even more mouths to feed).
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:34 am to StupidBinder
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Who’s definitely in front of him? Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb, kid from Colorado (maybe).
I don't know. I have seen these listed along with Higgins form Clemson and Reagor from TCU. I simply have not seen his name pop up once in the first round.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:40 am to Janky
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These should all stay.
Jacoby Stevens and Justin Jefferson would be bat shite crazy to return. Neither would increase their draft stock by even one place.
Also, how could you make a list of possible departures and not put Deculus and Shelvin? Shelvin is almost certainly gone, and Deculus has played well enough.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:40 am to Janky
@Janky
"Leave early to be a second or third round pick?"
You make it sound like all NFL players are 1st round picks. Allow these young men to make a reasonable living for their families. They've represented LSU very well.
"Leave early to be a second or third round pick?"
You make it sound like all NFL players are 1st round picks. Allow these young men to make a reasonable living for their families. They've represented LSU very well.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:41 am to Da Cooyon
I won't be surprised to see Clyde leave.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:45 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Jefferson 100%
Chaisson 100%
Delpit 100%
CEH 80%
Moss 80%
Stevens 70%
Phillips 70%
Queen 65%
Ingram 60%
Charles 60%
Cush 50%
Logan 30%
Farrell 30%
Shelvin 30%
Deculus 30%
Vincent 15%
Excellent odds estimate, Lester. Just a few adjustments, imo. Shelvin should be about 70%; Farrell 10%; Logan 10%.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:47 am to Penrod
CEH is 100%
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:49 am to Salmon
quote:He has nothing else to prove here.
CEH is 100%
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:50 am to Salmon
quote:
CEH is 100%
And I hope he makes a billion dollars (also hyperbole). He is by far my favorite player.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:52 am to Janky
kinda interesting that you don't hold the same logic for CEH as others
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:53 am to Penrod
quote:
Jefferson 100% 80%
Chaisson 100% 100%
Delpit 100% 100%
CEH 80% 70%
Moss 80% 50%
Stevens 70% 40%
Phillips 70% 40%
Queen 65% 40%
Ingram 60% 50%
Charles 60% 40%
Cush 50% 80%
Logan 30% 40%
Farrell 30% 20%
Shelvin 30% 20%
Deculus 30% 20%
Vincent 15% 5%
Jefferson 100% 80%
Chaisson 100% 100%
Delpit 100% 100%
CEH 80% 70%
Moss 80% 50%
Stevens 70% 40%
Phillips 70% 40%
Queen 65% 40%
Ingram 60% 50%
Charles 60% 40%
Cush 50% 80%
Logan 30% 40%
Farrell 30% 20%
Shelvin 30% 20%
Deculus 30% 20%
Vincent 15% 5%
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:57 am to Salmon
quote:
kinda interesting that you don't hold the same logic for CEH as others
Not really. I don't think he can improve his position, but I think Jefferson, Stevens and Phillips can. That is my opinion.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:58 am to Janky
quote:
I don't think he can improve his position, but I think Jefferson
Jefferson and CEH are in the same boat
neither are probably going to improve their production next year
both have maximized their skills at LSU
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:59 am to Purple Spoon
quote:
I can’t imagine Queen with project very high. He has some holes in his game and has been exposed a few times.
Watch Queen fall to the ground vs UGA, spring to his feet before you can blink & eye & hit the QB
Watch Queen cover an nfl RB step for step down the sideline vs Bama only to be beat by the most perfect throw.
Nfl teams take notice. Queen flashes & that’s what they want
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:02 am to Salmon
quote:
Jefferson and CEH are in the same boat
neither are probably going to improve their production next year
That is fine. You have your opinion and I have mine.
I don't think his production has to be more. However, it can be better. Catch more balls thrown his way percentage wise. Make a bunch of great catches. I don't think he will lose position unless he just drops a bunch of balls. Again, my opinion only.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:03 am to Janky
quote:
That is fine. You have your opinion and I have mine.
It irks me that your opinions are not consistent
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