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re: Donte Jackson gets called out for low tip

Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:18 pm to
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His posts are very similar to a poster I think "dawgfan" or whatever


Glad someone else realized this. Kedwards/ozone/dawgfan/ pencolatiger....

All the same
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32945 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:19 pm to
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No. It's an a-hole thing. I've seen white people not tip and I've seen black people tip $100 before. This happens from all walks of life.

That must have been like seeing a unicorn.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9770 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:22 pm to
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That must have been like seeing a unicorn.


Well I must be a fricking unicorn then.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:32 pm to
Drew Brees tipped 3 dollars on 70 dollar take out. Drew should have tipped 5 dollars instead of 3.

Lots of people say standard dine in tip is 5 dollars, they are wrong but that is what is said.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
21881 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:38 pm to
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And the waiter tweeted "no such thing as bad service" which means he's probably an expert in bad service.



Where did he say that? Can't find it.
Posted by IMJ127
Death Valley
Member since Jul 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:39 pm to
This was Hibachi, right? Did he tip the chef separately? Could have! Also, what exactly does the waiter at a Hibachi place have to do?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:09 pm to
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I tipped her $40 for working hard for my wife and I on top of helping those a-holes who didn't tip.



You my friend would be the exception to the rule....nice gesture.
Posted by Diogi
Member since Sep 2017
96 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:30 pm to
Give it up pal...anybody who would believe you would be incredibly naive. Also, all the comments alluding to the excuse that "maybe the service was bad" are laughable. Like I said before...it's a black thing. I didn't say "all black people" are like this, nor did I say that all white people tip generously...but it is overwhelmingly a black thing!!!!
Posted by Np52478
Slidell
Member since Mar 2015
184 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:32 pm to
Get outta town...
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39755 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:54 pm to
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let the poors who "handle money" fuss over such things Ain't that right, Mortimer


I've worked as a delivery driver, dishwasher, bartender, cook, and a waiter. Putting people on blast publicly for a bad tip is really shitty.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 12:15 am to
Amazing how many pious fricks want to beat their chest about proper tipping.

This is just moral smugness supporting a wage shitcanned by most of the rest of the free world in lieu of steady income for food service workers, borne by their employers, the establishment owners.
For every food service person lucky enough to wait on high rollers, there's probably 20 that struggle to make ends meet due to employed at lesser establishments, wrong shifts, stolen tips, Donte Jacksons, etc, etc.
LOL, this needs to be moved to OT or Food/Drink Board.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 12:32 am to
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all the comments alluding to the excuse that "maybe the service was bad" are laughable. Like I said before...it's a black thing. I didn't say "all black people" are like this, nor did I say that all white people tip generously...but it is overwhelmingly a black thing!!!!



I don’t want to make anything ever about race. I really hate it, but I know black waitresses at times try to avoid being the one to wait on a black group. Of course there are poor tippiers of any race..

My understanding is foreigners can be bad as well, but mostly because their people are paid differently in the same professional.. possibly not as dependent on tips? I honestly don’t know. Just relaying what I’ve heard.

an nfl player like Donte, you probably would want to jump at the chance to serve because you’d think he’d order big and then tip accordingly .
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69784 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 12:47 am to
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This is just moral smugness supporting a wage shitcanned by most of the rest of the free world in lieu of steady income for food service workers, borne by their employers, the establishment owners. For every food service person lucky enough to wait on high rollers, there's probably 20 that struggle to make ends meet due to employed at lesser establishments, wrong shifts, stolen tips, Donte Jacksons, etc, etc. LOL, this needs to be moved to OT or Food/Drink Board.



But then if they pay the servers a more appropriate hourly wage the consumer prices will just go up to make up for it.

The money is coming out one way or another. When you go out to eat at a restaurant you have to factor in the tip. At least decent people.

With that said, it actually might be more beneficial to get rid of the tipping system because it puts less pressure on the waiter and simply makes everything easier.

The system is what it is and even if I disagree with it.. I’m still going to respect it. So if I choose to eat out knowing this then I’m going to tip accordingly... or simply just get take out.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69784 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:07 am to
Another reason I don’t buy the idea of service waa bad is because this guy not only has a great reputation there.. but he knew who Donte was.. he knew he had money and possibly a large crowd. I imagine he would go above and beyond to serve him.. that is just human nature. I can’t imagine a reputable guy all of a sudden being a poor waiter to a guy he knows now has money.

Also if it was because of poor service I don’t think he would go public with it. I feel he was so surprised that he then made the statement, like a come on bro..

I hear stories about how on cruises there are practices of tipping your waiter or whatever on the last day instead of every time they serve you.. and some people skip out that last day and just bounce without every tipping anything.. I’ve never been on a cruise in my life, so I have no idea. That would suck.

The more I think of it the more I agree it may just be better to pay these people a better salary and avoid the pressures of being so dependent upon tips. I’m sure restaurant owners really rather not.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:17 am to
he'll be eating special sauce with a side of butt crack sweat next time he eats out.

why people piss off the dining industry is beyond me.

don't frick with the people that pay you or make your food.

hope he isn't allergic to feces.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:23 am to
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The money is coming out one way or another.
Exactly. So why shouldn't there be some fairness to it for all and not tied to how glitzy where you work is, or which shift, etc.
I've had better service at lesser establishments and vice versa.
Never waited a table and no expert on the subject, but must be frustrating to be tied into those unfortunate conditions while your employer shrugs his shoulders and rakes in the cash.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:28 am to
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I have lived all over the world and this the western democracy that allows it service staff to be payed slave wages, and then expect me the consumer to make for something that would be criminal in any civilized country.


Since there are only 100 cents in every US$ for the business owner, what you are asking is for the restaurant owner to inflate the price of your meal to include a salary for the bartender, waiters, and busboy that served you before, during and after your meal. That includes their salary and social security matching tax.

SO regardless of the quality of service you receive at your meal, you will be paying for the service that the owner believes he should be providing in his establishment. If he wants to provide excellent service he will hire experienced and excellent waitstaff and pay them well to keep them. And the menu prices will reflect that. And you will have no choice in the matter, regardless of the level of service provided you on a particular meal.

I however, would prefer to provide a gratuity based on the level of service provided, the interaction with my servers, and any other factors of my choosing (holidays, waiter is a student or single mom, etc). This is in opposition to some very mediocre service that can be found in some (not all) very nice European restaurants where tipping is not expected. I have had fabulous service in other parts of the world but not always.

So either way, you the consumer are paying for it, unless you are too cheap to tip appropriately in American restaurants where a gratuity is not automatically added to the bill. But I am sure since you have traveled extensively that you wouldn't be that guy!
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:37 am to
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A young baller has to conserve his money where he can and tipping just isn't on his agenda evidently! If he’s conserving his money why is he spending 125 bucks on dinner? Seems wasteful


Sorry - should have added SARCASM ALERT!!!

No reason for him not to tip unless he has not been taught. But I bet his agent has bought him at least a dozen very nice meals since he signed with him and at least a couple since Donte did the contract. It's the agent's job to teach guys things like that. And not to ask for ketchup when you are eating a PRIME steak at a top steak house, and don't drink your 12 y o bourbon with a straw, etc.
Hopefully DJ will catch on to these nuances eventually.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:40 am to
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He isn't making as much money on his rookie contract as people think according to your post.


Totally sarcastic! That's a huge signing bonus and certainly plenty to leave a $24 tip.

Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:53 am to
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This is in opposition to some very mediocre service that can be found in some (not all) very nice European restaurants where tipping is not expected.
This is BS and I dine overseas a lot due to job.
In fact it's great to throw them a little extra for exceptional service, without feeling I owe to their existence instead of the employer.
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