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re: Does the quick hire mean Steele was told to leave
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:33 am to ATLTiger
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:33 am to ATLTiger
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Les just went thru the interview process with DC's last year. Pretty sure he interviewed Aranda then. Might have been just as easy as a phone call to see if Dave still wanted the job.
You don't make an "announce-able" deal in 48 hours. I don't know if Les pushed Steele out, but he knew ahead of time.
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Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:41 am to Penrod
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don't make an "announce-able" deal in 48 hours. I don't know if Les pushed Steele out, but he knew ahead of time.
This. It's really interesting to see how few recruits Steele was the lead recruiter on. Maybe that's standard, but I thought that was the strength he was supposed to bring to LSU. Makes you think I was she was managing around this for a while now.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:41 am to Mo Jeaux
[quote]Next level? Steele made a lateral move.
LSU >> Auburn
To me at this point in time AU is not on the same level as LSU, this is a step down for Steele which tells me Miles was never gonna keep him,but needed him for one year until Aranda was ready.Steele got the AU job because of family for the most part,of course this part is just a guess, i'm just glad we got a great coach.
LSU >> Auburn
To me at this point in time AU is not on the same level as LSU, this is a step down for Steele which tells me Miles was never gonna keep him,but needed him for one year until Aranda was ready.Steele got the AU job because of family for the most part,of course this part is just a guess, i'm just glad we got a great coach.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:45 am to Who Me
Who cares ?????
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:47 am to Who Me
If Steele/AU are willingly paying a buy out then it was Steeles decision to leave and he got the ball rolling. Les pulled his lucky horse shoe out of his arse and found Arnada waiting.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:52 am to Oyster
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If Steele/AU are willingly paying a buy out then it was Steeles decision to leave and he got the ball rolling.
Him paying half the buyout out of a raise is much better than being fired as far as his resume is concerned. Auburn was basically out of options at DC.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:58 am to TigerinSoCal
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It means Aranda was the first choice last year.
I have seen this mentioned multiple times. Just curious, why didn't Aranda take the job last year? What's changed? Anyone know?
NOLA Article
"Those with knowledge of Aranda's hire said he was LSU coach Les Miles' top pick a year ago. But Aranda wouldn't budge from Wisconsin because LSU athletic director Joe Alleva only wanted to offer a two-year deal with that silly clause saying the school would only owe its assistants six months pay if Miles was fired.
Who wants to agree to something like that?"
You can like Miles or hate him, but if any objective person can't see that Alleva has been trying to chop him off at the knees for several years you're kidding yourself. That's not the way a professional handles business - you give your employee every opportunity to succeed, and if they don't, then you replace them. But you don't take small-minded steps to undermine him while he is still trying to win games for LSU.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:10 am to Who Me
Seems like one of two things occurred:
1) (more likely) Steele and Auburn were a done deal for a week or two before bowl games and Les had locked up Aranda prior to the bowls/announcements. Lots of reasons Steele likes Auburn all of which have been hashed out (brother, retirement...)
2) Les wanted Aranda last year, but contract restrictions forced him to "settle" for Steele. When the whole fire Les debacle was finished, Les demanded better contracts for new hires, and it opened the door for his first choice and he moved on it.
Don't really care, but LSU just hired a young, innovative DC who is cerebral enough to connect and get a lot out of individual players without running them off by treating them like crap.
He may be a flop, but I doubt it.
Let's just get a little better on offense!
I liked the misdirection/counter running game with an occasional sweep and adjustments to the second half passing game in the bowl, but will need to see it with consistency next year for me to have confidence.
1) (more likely) Steele and Auburn were a done deal for a week or two before bowl games and Les had locked up Aranda prior to the bowls/announcements. Lots of reasons Steele likes Auburn all of which have been hashed out (brother, retirement...)
2) Les wanted Aranda last year, but contract restrictions forced him to "settle" for Steele. When the whole fire Les debacle was finished, Les demanded better contracts for new hires, and it opened the door for his first choice and he moved on it.
Don't really care, but LSU just hired a young, innovative DC who is cerebral enough to connect and get a lot out of individual players without running them off by treating them like crap.
He may be a flop, but I doubt it.
Let's just get a little better on offense!
I liked the misdirection/counter running game with an occasional sweep and adjustments to the second half passing game in the bowl, but will need to see it with consistency next year for me to have confidence.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:21 am to Who Me
quote:possibly.
Does the quick hire mean Steele was told to leave by Who Me
Or. He made Miles aware with a lot of lead time and Miles understood the personal reasons Auburn was an attraction for Steele and set about looking for new coach.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:24 am to CaliTigerForLife
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the Les Miles clause in it. That needs to be removed from any contract EVER for assistants.
Explain to me how this infamous "Les Miles clause" is any different than any other contract that assistant coaches across the country receive?
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:25 am to ATL-TIGER-732
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Out of the tens of thousands of words written recently about firing Miles, I don't remember seeing any blaming the defense.
Then you haven't really been reading the Rant or you have selective reading skills. There have been many threads and comments about our secondary play, people out of position on many plays and looking confused as well as our lack of D-line depth and LB play.
More people have focused on the offensive woes from Bama forward but our D has had its share of issues as well and they are well documented here.
I saw more intensity on the defensive side of the ball in the bowl game which gives me hope.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:29 am to Choupique19
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Explain to me how this infamous "Les Miles clause" is any different than any other contract that assistant coaches across the country receive?
Good question, but I would imagine most don't have a clause in them saying that if the head coach leaves the contract is immediately terminated with no obligation by the school to pay any portion of the balance of the contract.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:30 am to Geauxst
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You can like Miles or hate him, but if any objective person can't see that Alleva has been trying to chop him off at the knees for several years you're kidding yourself. That's not the way a professional handles business -
Excellant summary
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:31 am to Who Me
Steele was a settle type hire last year. Coaching hires, good ones anyway, come down to timing. Let's face it timing in life is a very important factor as we know it. I think for whatever reason Aranda wasn't ready to jump last year. I also know he wasn't the first choice last year. Pendergast and others were ahead of him. Also there was ALOT of talk about getting Kirby Smart out of Sabans shadow. Believe it or not but Les wanted him. Now I know the feeling wasn't mutual and that's why I think we ended up with Steele. Everything happens for a reason and this worked out pretty well. Just remember last year when Steele was announced and everybody was like WHAT, WHO. 
Now with 1 down and 2 to go, let's see who else we get
Curtis Johnson WR
??????????? OL
Now with 1 down and 2 to go, let's see who else we get
Curtis Johnson WR
??????????? OL
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 8:32 am
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:35 am to Who Me
yep, I would think so
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:37 am to ForeLSU
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Good question, but I would imagine most don't have a clause in them saying that if the head coach leaves the contract is immediately terminated with no obligation by the school to pay any portion of the balance of the contract.
You are saying that Chavis was offered, and Steele accepted a contract that had no buyout from LSU if the head coach and staff were fired?
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:38 am to Who Me
Negotiating the terms of his deal, and having the lawyers on both sides draft, review, edit, revise, and execute this contract in 48 hours alone would be next to impossible. And that leaves zero time for interviewing other candidates.
My bet is this deal was done before it was started.
My bet is this deal was done before it was started.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:47 am to Choupique19
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You are saying that Chavis was offered, and Steele accepted a contract that had no buyout from LSU if the head coach and staff were fired?
That seemed to be the implication, surely Chavis didn't expect his contract to guarantee him a job if the HC changed. The issue was that LSU had the right to terminate the contract, which can imply no buyout.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:59 am to ForeLSU
Appears to be a great hire. We'll see, Beat the inbred gumps next year hold them to 10 and under and we have a winner.
FOREVER LSU
FOREVER LSU
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:01 am to FISH N TIGER
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LSU >> Auburn
To me at this point in time AU is not on the same level as LSU,
That's nice. Doesn't change the fact that it was a lateral move.
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