re: Do you think the refs really cheat at Auburn?

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...and buy that dunce coach of yours a hat that fits while you are at it.

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He can BUY another hat. What's your goofy-arse coach going to do about his basset hound ears?

Tommy Tuperware is a classless piece of sh*t and I hope your eagle gets a bullet in the arse on gameday.

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Yeah, not like LSU has never got favorable calls at home. Oh wait, you did...last year:

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Kaboom!!!

Nicely captured with the pics too, especially the mysterious moving football.

First off, I don't think the refs cheat. I think the game in 2006 was horribly officiated, but I don't blame a conspiracy, I blame incompetence. The Auburn fans and the resident agitators on this thread are completely without credibility when they try and justify the pass interference as a good call. The better, and sane, argument is that bad calls happen.

Now, the problem with 2006 is that there were SO MANY bad calls. My personal favorite was the holding call on Dyakowski, who had a full cast over his hand and to his elbow, making holding a literal impossibility. There was also the PI on LaFell at the end of the first half which was easily the worst no call of he game. Metafour obviously didn't see that play since he claims Bowe's PI was the worst he ever saw, when he missed the guy getting tackled in the end zone.

Also, on the final play, Auburn made a great tackle at about the five yard line. It wasn't like it was a bad playcall by LSU. Give credit to Auburn's D on that play. Great hit. Stopped him cold. But for Auburn to complain about any calls in 2006 is absolutely ridiculous. Whatever.

Now, let's look at you evidence of 2007. The camera has shifted. the ball hasn't moved a yard, it moved forward about a foot. If we're going to allege awful officiating every time a spot is off by a foot, well, every official will be labelled awful. In photo #1, the ball is near the tip of the arrow. In photo #2, the ball is spotted at the tip. The camera made it look like a bigger move because of the change of angles. Look again.

Six men on the line, you got us. Unless the tight end counts. I'm not sure about the rule. The refs missed a 5 yard penalty. And it wasn't on the same drive because the 4th quarter drive ended on a fairly significant long pass play if memory serves...

The facemask stuff. I don't remember. show the evidence. We bring up the chop block because it was a dirty hit, in front of the official, on our best player. It could have ended Dorsey's career. It was absolutely uncalled for. I watched the game in a room in which I was the only LSU fan. Every person in the room was outraged by that play. It was absolutely awful.

I will close with this reasoned argument, Tangerine can suck my left one. Boom, indeed. Have an ounce of credibility, man.

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I will close with this reasoned argument, Tangerine can suck my left one. Boom, indeed. Have an ounce of credibility, man.

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The pics are credible enough. Kaboom! Even with the slight shift in camera, the ball moved more than enough for a first down. Also, please notice the ball in relation to the yellow first down line put on the screen. I seriously doubt ESPN chamged that. You all were Kaboomed by an AU fan!

Look at the second pic, there ARE 7 people on the line. Early Doucet is flanked out at the bottom (he later said that he checked with the official nearest him before the play to make sure that he was lined up properly. That official was the one that came in and overruled the flag.) There are 3 other Tigers lined up to Matt Flynn's left, 1 at center and 2 more to the right of the center, one of whom is partially hidden in the pic. The last time I checked, 1+3+1+2=SEVEN.

Funny, the Aubies aren't posting any pics of the chop block on Dorsey. Wonder why?

Ross, I know you're one of the more reasonable Auburn fans. And I think I've put forth a fairly logical argument. But I will say this, 2006 is the only time I've ever watched a game and thought LSU got robbed. We've lost games, and that's sucked. And there's been bad calls both ways my entire life of watching games.

But 2006 Auburn really is the only time I've felt we got absoltuely screwed. Once again, I allege no conspiracy, just a poorly officiated game. I understand why people are still pissed about it.

BTW - everyone should just ignore Tangerine. He just longs for the attention. He is not interested in actual discussion. Do not feed the trolls.

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The refs also happened to miss countless facemask tackles made by LSU defenders, which oddly enough I dont see any of you mentioning...but you do seem to talk a lot about the chop block.

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I didn't know Auburn challenged these calls and an LSU alumni in the replay booth called in favor for LSU. Wait.......that happened in Auburn in favor of Auburn. My bad.

Yes and im a 18 foot gargantuan.

Why dont you move to Los Angeles with the rest of the fruits and nuts where you belong.

WRT the spot, you are correct that the refs screwed up the spot. However, this is a reviewable play and Tubs chose not to. The point is that AU had the opportunity to correct the mistake, but either AU's coaches in the booth had their heads in their asses or Tubs didn't think it was important enough to get it corrected. LSU didn't have the opportunity to correct any of the bad calls.

WRT the 6 men on the line, this was posted by xiv earlier in the thread:

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Here's what happened (the really really important part will be in bold; there may be minor errors here because I'm going only on memory; my friend who is a ref explained this to me, and it's long)

-LSU breaks the huddle and lines up. They are driving to the left (north) on the tv screen. Other than the center, you need six on the line, and it's usually three on either side.
-LSU had two on the line up top, and three on the line on the bottom. Too few. The LSU receiver at the bottom of the screen communicates with the side/line judge to ask if he's on the line enough. The official communicates back, and the receiver takes a little step up so that he's on the line enough to not be called for a penalty.
-LSU has four on the bottom and two at the top. This is when the two side/line judges have to communicate with each other for formation penalties. The official up top puts his right hand on his left breast to signal that there are two on the line of scrimmage on his side (they call this "two titty"). The official on the bottom is supposed to put a fist in the air to signal that his side has four ("four fist"), but he, by mistake, does not. The official up top throws the flag for illegal formation because, based on what he knows, this is the correct call. After the play, which I believe resulted in an LSU touchdown, the two confirm that there were enough on the line, and the flag is waved off.

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WRT the face masks, please provide some evidence (video/stills). Since we're talking countless, I expect a lot.

WRT to the alledged PI by Bowe, can you point to some video so I can compare it to the non-call mugging of LaFell in the end zone.

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Not an AU alum

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Yes he was. He was also a big booster.