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re: Do you really have to throw the ball 40+ yards?
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:13 pm to TigerWilson88
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:13 pm to TigerWilson88
It is not neccessary to have a strong arm when you can keep the drive going on a play where he gets the first down with his legs. Let the RBs do the work and have Hatch improvise on rollouts, or throw it to our playmakers on crossing routes or other short throws.
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Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:21 pm to Fresh
Sec d s will catch on to that very quick
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:29 pm to loustuni
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Sec d s will catch on to that very quick
Catching on and being able to do something about it are two different things. We knew Rick Clausen was tearing us up on a monday night in the second half with short passes (he sucked by the way) and we failed to do anything about it. Our playmakers can get separation on most DB's and if we have a quick thinking quarterback who can just get them the ball we can break big plays and at least a first down.
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:36 pm to TigerWilson88
True ... IMO ... Still need the deep threat! 
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:59 pm to TigerWilson88
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Do you really have to throw the ball 40+ yards?
I hope not because if you do we will go 4-8.
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:21 pm to TigerBait1127
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it wouldn't hurt, especially with bowe and lafell at receiver
Holy Jesus, we got Dwayne Bowe back?
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:42 pm to TigerWilson88
What many people fail to realize is that when "arm strength" is brought up it doesn't have to mean throwing the ball 40-50 yards down the field. Even on slants you need a trong arm to fit the ball into a tight window. On outs you need a strong arm to throw the ball across the field.
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:43 pm to TigerWilson88
When in dout, just yooze inishulz 
Posted on 9/10/08 at 11:36 pm to TigerWilson88
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Do you really have to throw the ball 40+ yards?
To beat SEC teams?
No, you don't have to be able to heave the ball a gazillion yards to be considered good. It's a very legitimate "nice to have" but is another potential weapon in a hopefully large toolkit.
Posted on 9/10/08 at 11:51 pm to TigerWilson88
AWESOME POST. I mean I think a lot of times a strong arm is blown out of proportion. I guess the main thing is the stronger your arm is the longer it will hold up in a game to the point it's not worn out and affecting your play.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:34 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Rediculous should be capitalized.
And there should be a rule that you can't correct someone's grammar unless you can type two sentences without fricking them both up.
That's gotta be embarrassing. And how ironic
That's what you get.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:58 am to TigerWilson88
can hatch even throw 25 yards?
Posted on 9/11/08 at 8:18 am to TigerWilson88
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Do you really need to throw the ball 40+ yards to beat very strong SEC defences
College football has wide hash marks. If you want to throw a simple 10 yard out to the wide side of the field, it takes a 40 yard throw. It takes a 30 yard throw from the middle of the field to complete a simple 10 yard out.
A weak arm limits pass plays to the throws the QB can make. Most SEC coaches are pretty smart and will pick up on this. Stack the line to stop the run and play the short passing game. Will be very difficult to beat good SEC teams without the ability to stretch the field.
This post was edited on 9/11/08 at 8:19 am
Posted on 9/11/08 at 8:38 am to pawprints
Anybody that can't throw the ball 40+ yards has no business playing Div.III much less Div.I ball.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 9:38 am to EuniceTiger
App State had the safeties up on just about every play that Hatch was in. They played the safeties back when Lee was in the game. I think we are going to see that all year.
When Hatch had the opportunity to go to Byrd over the top, he couldn't get the ball out there. That was from the short hashmark with no pressure on a play where he got rid of the ball fairly quickly.
LSU wants to run the ball. It's going to be much harder to do that in the SEC if the defenses don't have to play Hatch honest.
When Hatch had the opportunity to go to Byrd over the top, he couldn't get the ball out there. That was from the short hashmark with no pressure on a play where he got rid of the ball fairly quickly.
LSU wants to run the ball. It's going to be much harder to do that in the SEC if the defenses don't have to play Hatch honest.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 9:54 am to moneyg
Hatch's arm strength is a huge issue. When safeties cheat up, there's a whole lot less of the field that they have to cover & makes the spaces he has to throw to much tighter. It also leaves a lot less space for the RBs to run to once they get through the line. It limits our offense tremendously.
However, I'd rather have that than Lee throwing to DB's every other play. So until Lee develops his ability to check down, Hatch is the better option.
However, I'd rather have that than Lee throwing to DB's every other play. So until Lee develops his ability to check down, Hatch is the better option.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 10:09 am to CParso
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anybody can throw 40
I'm sure you mean 1a quaterbacks, not "anybody". If so go shoot some vid of you tossing it 40 more than a few times. Have your physical therapist on speed dial to help you rehab your rotator cuff.
I think we need to be able to have the threat but more importantly these two need to know their limits and not throw pics.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 6:58 pm to CParso
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Hatch's arm strength is a huge issue. When safeties cheat up, there's a whole lot less of the field that they have to cover & makes the spaces he has to throw to much tighter. It also leaves a lot less space for the RBs to run to once they get through the line. It limits our offense tremendously.
However, I'd rather have that than Lee throwing to DB's every other play. So until Lee develops his ability to check down, Hatch is the better option.
Good theory. I agree, we play both QB's and let Coach C. do his thing. I know he can make plays to play to their strengths and hopefully minimize their weaknesses. They both should improve and we should have two experienced Qb's going into next year should one get injured. Throw in JJ and Shepard and we are set for the next half decade!
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:06 pm to TigerWilson88
You'll never win a NC by not being able to throw 40+ yds.
NC game stats:
12 passes under 10 yds. for 65 yds and 3 TD's.
7 passes between 10-25 yds. for 109 yds. and 1 TD.
NONE for over 25 yds....he averaged 5.4 yds. per completion.
Final stat 19/27 for 174 yds. and 4 TDs.
Lee or Hatch could make any of those throws. Ya'll just keep talking about the QB's, LSU will do fine.
A year ago, the LSU offense set 10 school records, including points in a season (541), points per game (38.6) and touchdowns scored (64), on its way to posting a 12-2 overall mark.
The 2007 LSU offense produced one of the top rushing and passing seasons in school history as Jacob Hester ran for 1,103 yards and 12 scores, while Flynn threw for 2,407 yards and 21 touchdowns. It marked only the sixth time in school history that LSU’s offense has featured a 1,000-yard rusher and a 2,000-yard passer in the same season.
Last year Flynn completed 56% of his passes for 21 TD's and 11 INT's. I would think both QB's with a second year under the Wiz could do as good or better. Returning 7 out of 8 leading receivers from last year, 4 of 5 rushers. This team will do just fine.
NC game stats:
12 passes under 10 yds. for 65 yds and 3 TD's.
7 passes between 10-25 yds. for 109 yds. and 1 TD.
NONE for over 25 yds....he averaged 5.4 yds. per completion.
Final stat 19/27 for 174 yds. and 4 TDs.
Lee or Hatch could make any of those throws. Ya'll just keep talking about the QB's, LSU will do fine.
A year ago, the LSU offense set 10 school records, including points in a season (541), points per game (38.6) and touchdowns scored (64), on its way to posting a 12-2 overall mark.
The 2007 LSU offense produced one of the top rushing and passing seasons in school history as Jacob Hester ran for 1,103 yards and 12 scores, while Flynn threw for 2,407 yards and 21 touchdowns. It marked only the sixth time in school history that LSU’s offense has featured a 1,000-yard rusher and a 2,000-yard passer in the same season.
Last year Flynn completed 56% of his passes for 21 TD's and 11 INT's. I would think both QB's with a second year under the Wiz could do as good or better. Returning 7 out of 8 leading receivers from last year, 4 of 5 rushers. This team will do just fine.
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:14 pm to LSUDad
It would be interesting to see how many passes Flynn threw last year that were over 40 yards. I can't remember many.
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