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re: Do we know what our baseball lineup is going to look like?

Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:49 pm to
He may be one of the guys to redshirt but even if so why would he only get another game or two?
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:50 pm to
Because you need to get more reps for guys that are actually going to play there this season.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:55 pm to
I think he’s asking why would he get ABs at all

If he’s healthy enough to play & on the roster, it’s kind of pointless to red shirt in baseball
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:56 pm to
We’re still two weeks away from game week, I don’t think they’re going to be shutting anyone down yet barring injury.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:00 pm to
You have like 6 guys that need reps at 1B, aside from Leto, and few have gotten any yet this spring. If Leto continues to get innings at 1B, then Johnson is considering him there for this year.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:10 pm to
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So you want Berry to transition to 1B?


For the best of the team he’s best served to play 1st or DH I think

Jay Johnson knows he has a cupboard full of capable INF. The question is how long will his rope be
Posted by funnystuff
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:26 pm to
Why would no pro team play him at first?



Nor meant to be a flame. I don’t know baseball particularly well, but it seemed like he was a top-end defensive first baseman last year. Feels like we would be able to manage at the next level.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:42 pm to
Profile of a pro 1B is a physically larger player, bat-first (power).

You feel like you waste Morgan’s athleticism by playing him at 1B, when CF is more of a premium defensive position
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:35 pm to
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Morgan certainly saved us some runs last year by being at first.

How many? And how many more runs would we get by putting Morgan in the outfield and moving another good hitter into the lineup instead of Gio? That’s the question. I’m not sure what the right answer is.
Posted by Conman23
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:26 pm to
Morgan is excellent at first base but he's a freak athlete. Pro teams will play him at first some but they are going to want that speed and athleticism in the outfield. Just like the dodger did with Cody Bellinger. You want someone like Ortiz or Pujols at 1B because they absolutely crush the ball but aren't super athletic. But you want them in the lineup and 1B isn't as difficult of a position.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:43 am to
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No one will be Morgan, but no one at LSU ever has been

But c’mon, playing 1B isn’t rocket science,




This. Morgan’s athleticism could be a much bigger asset in the OF as opposed to 1B especially if it allows another hitter in the lineup.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:45 am to
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Ortiz or Pujols at 1B


I mean both were not overly fast but Pujols was an extremely competent fielder (former 3b). Boston was scared to even put Ortiz in the field he was so bad at it.

I would say a competent major college infielder/catcher that has decent height could be easily turned into a solid 1b IMO.
This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 6:49 am
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:03 am to
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You have like 6 guys that need reps at 1B, aside from Leto, and few have gotten any yet this spring.
I don’t think there’s that many. It’s pretty clear Morgan and Beloso are the two most likely, and between those two it probably comes down to who performs better out of Beloso and the surplus outfielders.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:47 am to
With Morgan in CF, 1B is available for Beloso, Berry, Merrified, Jobert, and I'll even throw in Bianco. It could also be a landing spot for Travinski or McManus. Those guys will need to be comfortable at 1B, and the other infielders will need to be comfortable with them there. If Leto is going to redshirt, it doesn't do anybody any good to have him at 1B in scrimmages as the season nears.

Morgan and Beloso may be the most likely, but a lot of different scenarios open the door at 1B. Jay isn't just going to sit on a lineup with so much potential on the bench and in different combinations.
This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 8:49 am
Posted by I10 Bengal
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:05 am to
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We shouldn't need a 1B to make game saving plays. Throwing to 1B is a basic fundamental.


While throwing to first may be a "basic fundamental", it is not always a guarantee. Especially in college baseball.

I understand that CF is a more premium position defensively and Morgan might be better suited there for the pros, but he provides ample value to LSU at 1b. He catches balls that have no business being caught. That saves baserunners and ultimately runs. We're going need to help our pitchers in every way possible this year with such little experience on the mound. I think having Morgan at 1b goes a long way to accomplishing that.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:28 am to
Ain't no way I'm gonna continue arguing about it. If a baseball team truly needs a run saver at 1B at the expense of opening up the lineup for other bats, I don't know anything about baseball. I've never in all my years heard of the trick to winning baseball games is having a great defensive 1B.
Posted by I10 Bengal
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:47 am to
I think the "trick" is having more runs at the end of the game than the other team. Saving a run is equally important to scoring one.

And if opening up 1b for another bat means plugging in Beloso at 1b then you've downgraded your lineup.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:50 am to
Ok.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:52 am to
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Morgan-no pro team would play him at first base???
Not so sure about that.



1st Base is a place where MLB teams can hide a power hitter on defense. As great as Morgan is, he's not a power hitter and he's super athletic so he will have to play in the outfield.
Posted by Conman23
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:56 am to
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if opening up 1b for another bat means plugging in Beloso at 1b then you've downgraded your lineup.

What if it is to bring in one of the many other good hitters? Such as Merrifield, Mcmanus, Jobert, or any of the other guys competing for a spot.
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