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re: Diesel Collins hanging with Coach Eaux today
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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His auburn game is barely top 10 (10th)
In rushing yards for a single game.
It was one of the best performances I've ever seen and the 1997 Auburn team won the West and finished ranked #11. Fournette's game last year against Auburn was one of the best I've ever seen too.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:23 pm to Covingtontiger77
Booger recently said on twitter that Diesel was the best rb he ever saw.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:24 pm to Covingtontiger77
Damn anyone can get close to the program!
He has served his time,....right?
Not an agent????? Right?
He has served his time,....right?
Not an agent????? Right?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Dude, didn't you hear?? it's cool to hate on LF7 right now
frick this place
frick this place
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Most overhyped player in lsu history.
And your credentials are?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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170 and change against a stingy MSU team
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They were 7-4 and gave up 27 points to (5-7)kentucky and 28 points to(5-6) central Florida.
Stingy my arse.
That was a bit of a bipolar team. They got blown out by Georgia, but shut out Auburn 20-0 and held them to negative yards rushing. So yes, they were stingy at times and their defense finished with finished ranked pretty high.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I've been watching football for a while, I clearly saw him gang tackled in the NFL and I couldn't tell you how many times he lost a shoe while running out of arm/ankle wrap type tackles that most backs go down on. So you saying he wasn't one of the hardest runners that ever played at LSU? You have no idea what your talking about and I've never mentioned speed, his quickness was elite which is the time it takes to get to top speed. Yeah bc combine numbers always translate to great football players. Ahhh ha ha ha, seems to me that you put way too much stock in size and 40 times to me. How did LF size and 40 time help him against Bama, Arky, MS, Wisconsin, Bama again? There's actually more games I could mention. Here's another fact LSU had no passing game back then, every team knew we were rushing the football, and I never saw Cecil tackled behind the line. I saw the guy in person many times in HS and twice in college and he wasn't small bro. That guys theighs were pretty damn big and he would destroy linebackers. Safety's and corners didn't want any of that. You can stop with your superior complex because you aren't superior to anyone. He's was a great back stupid but very talented. So talented that he went from prison straight to the NFL without much training and he took over the #1 RB spot in the NFL, yeah he's overhyped, please. Get the frick out of here
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:58 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Dude, didn't you hear?? it's cool to hate on LF7 right now
Stating a fricking opinion that you prefer Guice's running style more is not hating. Damn. I'm glad LF sat out for his own good because he hasn't been healthy all year, and I'm a huge fan. Preferring one guy over another isn't on the same planet as what's happening on ESPN right now. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:21 am to pcolatiger28
I thought he played for Jimmy Johnson in Miami. For the four games I saw him play before he got hurt he was the baddest running back I have ever seen. Faulk would have been 2nd string.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:22 am to larry289
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And your credentials are?
His career rushing # 's and his 3.2 ypc in the nfl.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:28 am to El Campo Tiger
Society was pretty ignorant back then, but much, much, much more ignorant now.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Have you read a single scouting report?
No. I haven't, and I don't plan on starting today. I'm not regurgitating Rant bullshite, either. Everything I've stated was just personal OPINION. Nothing more, nothing less. If I am objectively wrong about calling Fournette's vision into question, so be it. I don't claim to be a fricking scout. I'm also not a parrot. Feel free to state a personal opinion that wasn't formed for you by others.
I prefer Guice's running style, and I think he will shatter records next season. Whether you agree or not, that is a subjective opinion. I also hope LF is drafted number one, and has a massively successful NFL career. This message board is designed for the open exchange of dialogue and opinion. I'm quite sure you will now proceed to tell me how wrong my opinion is, as you have 90% of the rest of the participants in this thread. Feel free.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:33 am to BayouBengal99
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o you saying he wasn't one of the hardest runners that ever played at LSU?
At no point did i say this.
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You have no idea what your talking about
Yes i do. 4 good games against auburn and 3 scrubs doesnt put him anywhere near the GOAT at lsu.
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Yeah bc combine numbers always translate to great football players
At no point did i say combine numbers translate to great players.
Not once.
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Ahhh ha ha ha, seems to me that you put way too much stock in size and 40 times to me.
Because a rb with a 20 lbs weight advantage is still faster than a 210 lb rb.
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How did LF size and 40 time help him against Bama
Line play.
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Arky
4.9 yards per carry. Getting down by 21 is what stopped LF against bama.
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ms
506 yards 63 carries for a ypc of 7.9.
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Here's another fact LSU had no passing game back then, every team knew we were rushing the football, a
Lf had the second best rushing season in sec history(162.8 ypg) WITH THE 103RD passing offense.
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o talented that he went from prison straight to the NFL without much training and he took over the #1 RB spot in the NFL, y
3.2 ypc in the nfl.
He is overhyped.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:36 am to misey94
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I'm not regurgitating Rant bullshite, either. E
When you say lf needs a big hole to have success, youre regurgitating rant bullshite.
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Feel free to state a personal opinion that wasn't formed for you by others.
I have. I just use professional opinions to help prove my point.
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his message board is designed for the open exchange of dialogue and opinio
At no point have i said anything personal. At no point have i said you dont deserve an opinion.
I thought you and i were having a cordial back and back forth. I guess we werent.
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I prefer Guice's running style, and I think he will shatter records next season.
If we have success with the passing game under Canada, guice probably wont break the lf records.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 12:39 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:40 am to Swag42
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started either his rookie or 2nd year in the NFL which is pretty impressive. 3.2 ypc is misleading considering how bad dolphins were.
What? They were 9-7 and won a playoff game.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:16 am to stout
Only had a couple games at mcneese before he about melted a cup after coming back from a road trip to Iowa or somewhere like that
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:47 am to Rickdaddy4188
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When you say lf needs a big hole to have success, youre regurgitating rant bullshite.
That's not what I said. I went back and checked. I said "a hole." There's a difference. Darryl Williams needs "a big hole" because he's a plodding power back with no burst. Fournette obviously doesn't need that. To say that he did would be an insult, but I didn't say that.
The difference between Fournette with that crease that allows him to hit the hole already accelerated, and him having to stop and start behind the line, or try to push through a logjam is huge. When he has that opening, he's a home run threat every time. When he doesn't, he gets yards against all but the best defenses, but he isn't generating big plays. You can look at several games, like Wisconsin and Auburn from this year and UF from last year where he was able to manufacture yards, but few to no big plays.
Why did I bring this up? There were several instances this year where Guice demonstrated the ability to get through a very small crease. One example that stood out (I believe it was in the Arkansas game), he literally turned his body, jumped sideways through a small gap in the line, regained his balance, and turned it into a double digit yard gain. It is just my personal opinion that Guice is better at creating something out of nothing. His skill set of being able to stop and start very quickly lends itself to this.
As for the offense next year, Canada's system (at least the one he ran at Pitt) is run-first with a lot of shifting and motion to confuse the defense. It's fairly balanced, but not much different in that respect than what we ran with Ensminger after Miles was shown the door. Based on that, I think it's highly unlikely that the offense passes enough to negatively affect Guice's numbers. He is going to get a ton of big play opportunities because the run game (assuming we run this offense. Canada has used other offensive styles in the past) will attack the edges as much as the middle of the line and be less predictable, spreading the defense out more.
Maybe you don't see it, but your posting style doesn't exactly come off as coridal. And that isn't just in your reaponses to me.
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