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Did you think of this?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:29 am
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:29 am
I was talking to a friend earlier on my shift, and during our conversation it kinda dawned on me...
Although we shouldn't have been in that position to begin with, from around midfield when you call a hail mary with nine seconds left, you would be going for it all. You don't expect to catch it at the six with one second on the clock.
If I were Miles and that happend, I would be beside myself and most likely not know what to do. Calling a play to either win the game or run out of time trying, and it being successful, but not successful enough, you aren't going to have your field goal team ready. It's all or nothing right then and there.
All I am saying is that was a long pass. It is very likely that this was a "win or lose right now" playcall. All three receivers went to the end zone.
Just a thought. And for those of you with the "He makes 4 million dollars for those decisions" argument, no argument you can make would apply to this. So don't try.
Although we shouldn't have been in that position to begin with, from around midfield when you call a hail mary with nine seconds left, you would be going for it all. You don't expect to catch it at the six with one second on the clock.
If I were Miles and that happend, I would be beside myself and most likely not know what to do. Calling a play to either win the game or run out of time trying, and it being successful, but not successful enough, you aren't going to have your field goal team ready. It's all or nothing right then and there.
All I am saying is that was a long pass. It is very likely that this was a "win or lose right now" playcall. All three receivers went to the end zone.
Just a thought. And for those of you with the "He makes 4 million dollars for those decisions" argument, no argument you can make would apply to this. So don't try.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:35 am to DByrd2
Nine seconds is still enough time to throw an out rout underneath the coverage and get out of bounds back in FG range. That's what I was thinking we would do.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:37 am to ezride25
God I am so fricking tired of trying to point out that it's not just the last play that has everyone upset. It's everything leading up to it, and a coaching staff whose job it is to be calm, rational, and prepared for every senario be completely incompetent and out of control.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:40 am to 9Fiddy
Yeah it was a cacophony of errors really, but even in spite of that there were still things we could have done to win the game right up until the very last play. It was like every possible thing Miles could do to frick it up... he did.
This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 5:42 am
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:42 am to 9Fiddy
A TO with 35 seconds left would have been good move...but what the heck do I know? It appeared to be bedlam on the LSU sideline and I dont think Miles should be caught like that...just saying. Have you seen Meyer on the sidelines? There isnt a more focused coach anywhere...he is totally focused on every play.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:45 am to Reel Gator
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Reel Gator
Now is not the time to gloat.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:48 am to DByrd2
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If I were Miles and that happend, I would be beside myself and most likely not know what to do.
If miles didn't know what to do, why is LSU paying him nearly 4 million a year?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 5:49 am to 9Fiddy
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God I am so fricking tired of trying to point out that it's not just the last play that has everyone upset. It's everything leading up to it, and a coaching staff whose job it is to be calm, rational, and prepared for every senario be completely incompetent and out of control.
1). Calm down. It's just a thought. Don't piss yourself.
2). Would you honestly, in your heart of hearts, think that an attempt to win the game on a deep ball would be caught, in bounds, with < 1second left? Say what you want, but there is not a snowball's chance in hell that you can expect that to ever happen, much less plan for that situation.
As for the out route underneath coverage, that still would have been a thirty(ish) yard route to get to the first down marker, and even then there is no guarantee he catches it/gets out of bounds. Not saying that isn't what should have been called, but this is definitely what I saw as a "what the frick" moment.
And to all along the lines of 9Fiddy, no matter how much money you make, you can't be fricking perfect.
That scenario doesn't happen very often at all, and contrary to popular belief, money does not grant infinite wisdom and perfect judgement.
I think HUMAN is the word. People make mistakes. Granted, there were quite a few on Saturday. This one, though, can be justified somewhat, IF in fact this was the call to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 5:51 am
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:04 am to DByrd2
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This one, though, can be justified somewhat, IF in fact this was the call to begin with.
Yeah but he should have had the field goal unit ready regardless. You have the field goal unit ready no matter what in that situation as the ENTIRE part of the plan for the playcall.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:06 am to DByrd2
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If miles didn't know what to do, why is LSU paying him nearly 4 million a year?
This is what I am talking about. Wish I had a chance to see you shite a brick in the situation, Coach.
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Yeah it was a cacophony of errors really, but even in spite of that there were still things we could have done to win the game right up until the very last play. It was like every possible thing Miles could do to frick it up... he did.
However poorly, I acknowledged that with the "we shouldn't have been in that position to begin with" comment.
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A TO with 35 seconds left would have been good move...but what the heck do I know? It appeared to be bedlam on the LSU sideline and I dont think Miles should be caught like that...just saying.
AGREED! I am just flabbergasted that anyone can be expected to be flawless week in and week out, JUST BECAUSE he is paid an un-Godly amount of money.
I know it's a lot of money (understatement), but you just can't expect that.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:14 am to DByrd2
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Yeah but he should have had the field goal unit ready regardless.
IF he knew that the clock was not going to run out. He had no timeouts and nine seconds left and 50+ yards to go to win the game.
I do see what you are sayin, but IMHO that play was called with the intent of it to be an end-all, be-all situation. In those situations, the field goal unit will not be ready. It's just the nature of the call.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:16 am to DByrd2
To not prepare for every possible scenario is poor coaching.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:20 am to DByrd2
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but IMHO that play was called with the intent of it to be an end-all, be-all situation
I'm not arguing with what you are saying because I think Les Miles is so simplistic he actually was thinking that way. And that's the f'ing problem. When you make 4 million a year with as much coaching experience as he has, you think the whole thing through and do it on the spot. Because, afterall, you are being paid 4 million a year to think things all the way through. A coach getting paid 75,000 is justified to just think it through as just a hail mary play in the endzone and then get caught with your pants down.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:22 am to DByrd2
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IF he knew that the clock was not going to run out. He had no timeouts and nine seconds left and 50+ yards to go to win the game.
I do see what you are sayin, but IMHO that play was called with the intent of it to be an end-all, be-all situation. In those situations, the field goal unit will not be ready. It's just the nature of the call.
I agree that they never expected to have another play, but even if you don't plan ahead just in case, can't you think on the fly enough to have them run a play?
They're college kids, but do they get so much smarter in the NFL? QB's call audibles and timeouts on their own as the play clock runs out. Knowing when to "clock it" is second nature. Do the players not know how to handle these situations yet?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:23 am to JustSmokin
Nobody would think that bullshite is how it would have happened. He isn't a fricking psychic.
Jeebus...I talk so much about the IQ level of gumps, maybe I should look at some of our delusional rantards as well.
Then again...It is entertaining.
In the words of Patches O'Hoolihan, "It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob."
Jeebus...I talk so much about the IQ level of gumps, maybe I should look at some of our delusional rantards as well.
Then again...It is entertaining.
In the words of Patches O'Hoolihan, "It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob."
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:25 am to DByrd2
Only a retard would be defending Miles.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:27 am to DByrd2
So tell me this. Using all the excuses you have for what happened at the end of the game, are you satisfied with the effort and mental accuity that was on display Saturday by our coaching staff?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:28 am to DByrd2
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If I were Miles and that happend, I would be beside myself and most likely not know what to do.
And this is why you don't coach major college football. Hell, it makes you wonder why Miles does. This isn't like scheming to go against a Nick Saban defense or an Urban Meyer offense, this is the same basic clock management jr. high coaches have to deal with, and our coaching staff continues to fail miserably at it.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 6:29 am to bulmoss
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Do the players not know how to handle these situations yet?
Most likely not a first-year starter sophomore who has been handcuffed all year by his OC and head coach.
I do understand what you are saying, but It could happen to anyone. Practically inconceivable. It would have surprised me. I guess it's just too much to ask that people realize that mistakes are normal.
But I like how coaches just come out of the woodworks on here. Lol.
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