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re: Did USL really bring more fans to the softball game than to the baseball game?
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:00 pm to Cajunese
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:00 pm to Cajunese
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This is exactly how LSU got to where they are at. Before the TAF, how did LSU receive all that money? You see, as an LSU fan, you probably didn't mind seeing your taxes going to LSU's prosperity. But I'm sure other people in this state from other schools felt the same way you do with your current tax dollars.
LSU recieved benefits just like every other university in the state. But LSU did the hard work to better itself b/c if it continued to be supported by the state quality of education would go down. LSU knew what it had to do and did it. ULL on the other hand still just sits on its arse with its hand held out wanting wanting wanting. ULL rather blame LSU for keeping them down when in fact its the ULL admin that blows total donkey dick. ULL needs to grow up, do the work and stop making the tax payers foot the bill. When that stops then i'll keep my views to myself, until them i spew them out until i'm blue in the face.
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:02 pm to RealityTiger
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Was UL Lafayette even a university at that time, or just a vocational college? Serious question.
Founded in 1898, it became a four year university in 1920
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:03 pm to Cajunese
My whole life I've pulled for USL/ULL when they weren't playing LSU. I never understood the venom USL fans felt towards LSU, it didn't register. But that's before I understood the prevalence of "little man syndrome" in Acadiana.
It has historical roots in South Louisiana and is present in LSU culture as well.
It's a uniquely insecure form of self-loathing and a fear that somebody else is doing better than you.
It's fear-based. A guy from Eunice explained it in great detail to me recently, like I was in Kindergarten.
Working in Acadiana I see it every day. Personally, I find it hard to pull against anybody from South Louisiana regardless of school affiliation.I root my arse off for Roger Cador and Southern, for instance.
It has historical roots in South Louisiana and is present in LSU culture as well.
It's a uniquely insecure form of self-loathing and a fear that somebody else is doing better than you.
It's fear-based. A guy from Eunice explained it in great detail to me recently, like I was in Kindergarten.
Working in Acadiana I see it every day. Personally, I find it hard to pull against anybody from South Louisiana regardless of school affiliation.I root my arse off for Roger Cador and Southern, for instance.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:10 pm to Lsupimp
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I root my arse off for Roger Cador and Southern
Same here. That man works his arse off for that university.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:11 pm to Lsupimp
quote:Same here.
I root my arse off for Roger Cador and Southern
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:13 pm to GotDucks?
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LSU knew what it had to do and did it. ULL on the other hand still just sits on its arse with its hand held out wanting wanting wanting. ULL rather blame LSU for keeping them down when in fact its the ULL admin that blows total donkey dick. ULL needs to grow up, do the work and stop making the tax payers foot the bill. When that stops then i'll keep my views to myself, until them i spew them out until i'm blue in the face.
You're crazy if you think our tax dollars don't go to LSU as well. But it's easy to not say anything about that, isn't it. "LSU did work." Yeah, allowing the state legislature to give more funding for its academic programs and making the school too big for its own enrollment. Why do you think LSU had to lay off over 100 faculty members just a few years ago? You think it was JUST the economy? No. LSU has had a reputation of funding every major carried out by any other in-state school since the days of Huey Long. And just a few years ago, it caught up with them. So before you go spewing on your "tax dollar" rant. Guess what? MY tax dollars go to a school that was one of the longest tenured tier two flagship schools in the nation. But everything will be ok, just as long as we keep winning baseball games, right?
Double standard at its finest.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:19 pm to Cajunese
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You're crazy if you think our tax dollars don't go to LSU as well. But it's easy to not say anything about that, isn't it. "LSU did work." Yeah, allowing the state legislature to give more funding for its academic programs and making the school too big for its own enrollment. Why do you think LSU had to lay off over 100 faculty members just a few years ago? You think it was JUST the economy? No. LSU has had a reputation of funding every major carried out by any other in-state school since the days of Huey Long. And just a few years ago, it caught up with them. So before you go spewing on your "tax dollar" rant. Guess what? MY tax dollars go to a school that was one of the longest tenured tier two flagship schools in the nation. But everything will be ok, just as long as we keep winning baseball games, right? Double standard at its finest.
Here we go, its everyone elses fault, typical cajun fan. Lets ignore everything ULL did wrong to get where it isn't now. I wouldn't be suprised if you voted for Obama as well. Tisk tisk
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:20 pm to Cajunese
You are an angry little aggrieved fellow. 
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:33 pm to GotDucks?
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Here we go, its everyone elses fault, typical cajun fan. Lets ignore everything ULL did wrong to get where it isn't now. I wouldn't be suprised if you voted for Obama as well. Tisk tisk
Um, no I voted for Romney. But with your double standard argument, I can say the same for you as well....like a true liberal.
And where did I mention once in my post that it was LSU's fault? All I said was that if it's ok for you to complain about your tax dollars go, I have just as much the right to complain about mine. In your mind, LSU academics could go in the shi**er, but as long as those football and baseball games produce wins....no problem here. Again, double standard.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:33 pm to Lsupimp
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You are an angry little aggrieved fellow.
Nope, none here
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:34 pm to Cajunese
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You're crazy if you think our tax dollars don't go to LSU as well. But it's easy to not say anything about that, isn't it. "LSU did work." Yeah, allowing the state legislature to give more funding for its academic programs and making the school too big for its own enrollment. Why do you think LSU had to lay off over 100 faculty members just a few years ago? You think it was JUST the economy? No. LSU has had a reputation of funding every major carried out by any other in-state school since the days of Huey Long. And just a few years ago, it caught up with them. So before you go spewing on your "tax dollar" rant. Guess what? MY tax dollars go to a school that was one of the longest tenured tier two flagship schools in the nation. But everything will be ok, just as long as we keep winning baseball games, right?
Double standard at its finest.
He was only referring to the athletics. Everyone in LA should have a problem with the spending of the ULL athletic department. Last year they paid to have a CBI Basketball tournament bid. They didn't even break even on it. Finish 3rd in the Sun Belt, you get a raise! Win the New Orleans bowl everyone on the team gets a ring. Avg attendance 20,000 in a 30,000 capacity stadium, lets try and double capacity!
Since you took a shot at LSU academics, you need to look at the graduation rates between the two schools. ULL's graduation rate is terrible!
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:36 pm to Cajunese
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Um, no I voted for Romney. But with your double standard argument, I can say the same for you as well....like a true liberal. And where did I mention once in my post that it was LSU's fault? All I said was that if it's ok for you to complain about your tax dollars go, I have just as much the right to complain about mine. Again, double standard.
"You're crazy if you think our tax dollars don't go to LSU as well. But it's easy to not say anything about that, isn't it. "LSU did work." Yeah, allowing the state legislature to give more funding for its academic programs and making the school too big for its own enrollment. Why do you think LSU had to lay off over 100 faculty members just a few years ago? You think it was JUST the economy? No. LSU has had a reputation of funding every major carried out by any other in-state school since the days of Huey Long. And just a few years ago, it caught up with them. So before you go spewing on your "tax dollar" rant. Guess what? MY tax dollars go to a school that was one of the longest tenured tier two flagship schools in the nation. But everything will be ok, just as long as we keep winning baseball games, right? Double standard at its finest."
Looks like you're blaming LSU. Oh yeah its the states fault that ULL isn't where it suppose to be. fricking
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:36 pm to Cajunese
That's good to know.
Because for a minute there you were fitting the description of the angry little Cajun man with the chip on his shoulder pointing out how his neighbor has more stuff and that just ain't fair...
Because for a minute there you were fitting the description of the angry little Cajun man with the chip on his shoulder pointing out how his neighbor has more stuff and that just ain't fair...
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:40 pm to ZooTiger
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He was only referring to the athletics. Everyone in LA should have a problem with the spending of the ULL athletic department. Last year they paid to have a CBI Basketball tournament bid. They didn't even break even on it. Finish 3rd in the Sun Belt, you get a raise! Win the New Orleans bowl everyone on the team gets a ring. Avg attendance 20,000 in a 30,000 capacity stadium, lets try and double capacity!
Hudspeth's contract allows him for a raise when the team wins so many games as well as a bowl berth/win. Just about every coach in the country has this type of contract. And pretty much every school that wins a bowl game gets a ring, including LSU if they would have won the Chik-fil-A bowl.
As for stadium expansion, it is part of the master plan. It's the 101 on attracting recruits to your school, as we all already know.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:43 pm to GotDucks?
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Looks like you're blaming LSU. Oh yeah its the states fault that ULL isn't where it suppose to be.
I'm not "blaming" LSU in that quote. That is actually common knowledge of what really happened. That is why LSU had a tough time on the academic front just a few years ago.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:43 pm to Cajunese
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Hudspeth's contract allows him for a raise when the team wins so many games as well as a bowl berth/win. Just about every coach in the country has this type of contract. And pretty much every school that wins a bowl game gets a ring, including LSU if they would have won the Chik-fil-A bowl. As for stadium expansion, it is part of the master plan. It's the 101 on attracting recruits to your school, as we all already know.
But here comes the zinger....tax payers don't pay for any of these things at LSU, ULL on the other hand....well you know already.
Look all i'm saying is I'm tired of funding your shitty athletic program. As long as my tax dollars go to your school I'll voice my views and facts.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:46 pm to Cajunese
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We didn't even know that we were going to make it that Sunday night
So, ULL fans only bother to come to regional games an hour away for the championship game? Ok, I understand now.
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But it's almost insulting that people still have this mindset that LSU's success just magically appeared
LSU won a college football championship in 1908. I believe that was before Huey, TAF, or 100,000 seat stadiums.
The last time you played McNeese a few years ago, you got hammered. ULM has beat Alabama and Arkansas. Tech is a tier II school with a more successful football program playing in a better conference. All three of those schools have no where near the enrollment or population the cities they reside in when compared to Lafayette.
The ULL failure to thrive in sports is directed related to the ULL failures by their leaders and their fans failure to support their programs and lack of oversight of their leaders.
You can deflect all you want by shouting out lack of money compared to LSU, but that doesn't explain away how a school with a enrollment of 20,000 and set up in one of the largest cities in the state can be such a failure for decades and decades and decades.
Don't look outside for the resasons, but look within.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:48 pm to GotDucks?
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But here comes the zinger....tax payers don't pay for any of these things at LSU, ULL on the other hand....well you know already.
Now, they don't but before the TAF....well you know already.
Honest question, back before the 1990's, before LSU starting winning national titles and before the TAF was started...were you complaining about your tax dollars then, too? Serious question.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:51 pm to Cajunese
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Honest question, back before the 1990's, before LSU starting winning national titles and before the TAF was started...were you complaining about your tax dollars then, too? Serious question.
You think LSU football wasn't making money before the 1990s?
Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:56 pm to Cajunese
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Now, they don't but before the TAF....well you know already. Honest question, back before the 1990's, before LSU starting winning national titles and before the TAF was started...were you complaining about your tax dollars then, too? Serious question.
And LSU "did work" to better it self and not stick hands out for taxpayer support any longer. ULL on the other hand....
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