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re: Did Lindsey know about the guns in his dorm?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:24 pm to Dingeaux
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:24 pm to Dingeaux
Oddly (or predictably), the LSU Residential Life Handbook expressly forbids weapons including all firearms in contradiction of the LA statute. LSU.edu/housing
They also call weapons out as "Leave at Home" on the move in packing list.
I wonder how many campus residents and their families are first learning about the dorm resident exception because of this incident. The revised statute appears to date back to 2018.
They also call weapons out as "Leave at Home" on the move in packing list.
I wonder how many campus residents and their families are first learning about the dorm resident exception because of this incident. The revised statute appears to date back to 2018.
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:24 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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RS 14:95.2 - Carrying a firearm or dangerous weapon by a student or nonstudent on school property, at school-sponsored functions, or in a firearm-free zone
It should be pointed out that the exception only applies to within the dorm room, or to and from the resident's vehicle from the dorm.
Get caught just walking around with it, or carry it into any other building or venue on campus, and it'll be a FAFO situation.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:27 pm to RB10
quote:They were auditing summer school classes for no credit to get a head start on their higher education.
I’m sure he thought they were just touring LSU’s campus for a couple of weeks before applying, right?
GEAUX TIGAHS!
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:50 pm to RB10
So, if the guns belong to the known criminal thugs (most likely scenario I'd guess), and they show up at his apartment armed is that not sufficient to constitute duress?
Ironically, if the guns are his (thus he had means to defend himself) it might make it tougher to beat the accessory after the fact charge on duress grounds.
I'm just trying to wrap my head around how a young man with a promising future gets pulled down into this kinda criminal activity. I'd like to believe that it's more likely someone in that situation might act out of self preservation and fear rather than illicit intent. It's likely he is another victim/collateral damage in this murderous tragedy rather than a criminal conspirator. Sad to see so many lives wrecked over thug nonsense.
Ironically, if the guns are his (thus he had means to defend himself) it might make it tougher to beat the accessory after the fact charge on duress grounds.
I'm just trying to wrap my head around how a young man with a promising future gets pulled down into this kinda criminal activity. I'd like to believe that it's more likely someone in that situation might act out of self preservation and fear rather than illicit intent. It's likely he is another victim/collateral damage in this murderous tragedy rather than a criminal conspirator. Sad to see so many lives wrecked over thug nonsense.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:51 pm to RB10
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ETA: Also, everyone posting the schools gun laws, stop. Even if they give permission to certain students to have guns in their possession,
It says nothing about "certain" students. The exception applies to ANY law abiding resident student living in a dorm room.
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they absolutely are not giving permission to own several long barrel weapons
That is a dumb statement. The exception doesn't differentiate between a handgun, rifle, or shotgun, nor does it mention a quantity limit. It also doesn't differentiate between a .22 or a .50 cal. for that matter.
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Further, IF those were Linsey’s and he had permission to have them on campus, that is the VERY FIRST thing his attorney would have given to the cops and the promptly announced to the press. A copy of his permits from LSU for all guns in his dorm.
The US Marshals had already removed the weapons from the room because of his felony arrest. At the time, they didn't know if they were part of the crime. Also, this isn't California or New York, you don't NEED a permit to own a gun.
Again, the exception is a STATE law. The school has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Louisiana RS 14:95.2(C) includes exceptions, one of which states that the prohibition on carrying firearms does not apply to: "A student who possesses a firearm in his dormitory room or while going to or from his vehicle or any other person with permission of the administration."
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:28 pm to w5oer
I'm now curious if LSU can enforce more restrictive firearms policies through administrative penalty such as expulsion despite the state law. State statute is criminal code so presumably the criminal penalty would not apply iaw the exception. However, is university free to enact non criminal sanctions as they see fit?
Would university policy be a violation of LA State Constitution Article.1 Section 11 "The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms is fundamental and shall not be infringed. Any restriction on this right shall be subject to strict scrutiny."?
Would university policy be a violation of LA State Constitution Article.1 Section 11 "The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms is fundamental and shall not be infringed. Any restriction on this right shall be subject to strict scrutiny."?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:51 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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I'm now curious if LSU can enforce more restrictive firearms policies through administrative penalty such as expulsion despite the state law.
I am a paralegal, not an attorney, but in my opinion it might open the school up to lawsuits. That's the reason the laws were passed in the first place.
Prior to the exception, the entire campus was a gun free zone. The fact that those dorms are considered those students' homes basically restricted their 2nd amendment rights.
I believe that the exception was written to specifically carve out the dorms, so that qualifying students could practice the "Castle Doctrine" and have their legally owned firearms within their residences.
That's the only logical reason that I can think of the exception being written in the first place.
The exception only applies to the dorm rooms and their privately owned vehicles, not anywhere else on campus.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:07 am to w5oer
Man, this has opened a whole can of worms.
I imagine that most people assumed that the entirety of campus was a gun free zone. When in actuality, it looks like every student can have a legally owned arsenal in their dorm room.
So crazy
I imagine that most people assumed that the entirety of campus was a gun free zone. When in actuality, it looks like every student can have a legally owned arsenal in their dorm room.
So crazy
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:23 am to Dingeaux
The irony is, until now it hasn't been an issue, and truthfully will likely never be an issue again.
It's not like wanted murderers hold up in the dorm rooms every day.
It would have never been mentioned in this case if it hadn't been for Chris Nokomoto. The guns were never even included in the police report written by Campus Police.
It's not like wanted murderers hold up in the dorm rooms every day.
It would have never been mentioned in this case if it hadn't been for Chris Nokomoto. The guns were never even included in the police report written by Campus Police.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 12:37 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:45 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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However, is university free to enact non criminal sanctions as they see fit?
The university is a wing of the state. I don’t believe they can enact any sanction or impose any rule that infringes on a constitutional right.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:56 am to lsufball19
You've never heard of a school being a gun-free zone? In every single state?
Making excuses for this kid so you can watch him run around in tight pants a few days a year is disgraceful.
Making excuses for this kid so you can watch him run around in tight pants a few days a year is disgraceful.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:17 am to Crappieman
For some of you so called Patriots, you sure don't seem to care much about due process and people being innocent until proven guilty.
None of yall know exactly what happened, the details or the context. Can you maybe wait until some corroborating evidence showing he knowingly harbored fugitives or illegally possessed firearms before stringing the kid up?
A reality exists where JT was taken advantage of by people he grew up with and whom he thought were friends.
Don't let that stop you from forming a digital lynch mob.
None of yall know exactly what happened, the details or the context. Can you maybe wait until some corroborating evidence showing he knowingly harbored fugitives or illegally possessed firearms before stringing the kid up?
A reality exists where JT was taken advantage of by people he grew up with and whom he thought were friends.
Don't let that stop you from forming a digital lynch mob.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:23 am to 94LSU
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Making excuses for this kid so you can watch him run around in tight pants a few days a year is disgraceful.
Stop building strawmen. No one is making excuses for Lindsey.
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You've never heard of a school being a gun-free zone?
Maybe start with reading the laws of the state where this happened. Or does it puzzle you why there were no firearm charges for Lindsey?
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 1:25 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:23 am to 94LSU
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You've never heard of a school being a gun-free zone?
Instead of talking out of your arse, why don't you read the previous posts and familiarize yourself with the laws of THIS state.
I have covered the ACTUAL applicable laws for the state of Louisiana.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 1:25 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:41 am to Crappieman
It’s unbelievable that he wouldn’t know that they were wanted, and he surely knew about the guns but as far as I know, possessing those guns, if they were lawfully purchased and the owners were not felons, that’s not illegal.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:51 am to PlaySomeHonk
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possessing those guns, if they were lawfully purchased and the owners were not felons, that’s not illegal.
pretty big LSU violation though. if they were his riffles, he is finished at LSU and headed to Last Chance U.
ETA - looks like I'm wrong about assuming it was a gun free zone.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 3:54 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:36 am to ZenFNmaster
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A reality exists where JT was taken advantage of by people he grew up with and whom he thought were friends.
An example will be made of him whether found guilty or not. It will be a strong warning that you do not aid murderers whether you play football or you’re just the killer’s uncle.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 5:38 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:39 am to creamofcornsoup
The two murderers were in his dorm room for 2 weeks, with multiple guns, one of which was a rifle. How likely is it to not see a rifle in a dorm room?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:44 am to Dingeaux
I know it's in the title of th OP, but you guys are focusing to much on the guns. He harbored 2 murder suspects in his room for two weeks. Unless he can prove he was under duress, he's screwed.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:39 am to w5oer
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The guns were never even included in the police report written by Campus Police.
If so, that is crazy. Even if they were being held legally, seems like that would have been in the police report. I would say given the situation, finding guns in the dorm room would have been worth noting. I saw that the US Marshalls were mentioned too. Would they have some type of report filed?
Kind of seems like they were left out intentionally.
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