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re: Did Lindsey know about the guns in his dorm?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:51 am to lsufball19
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:51 am to lsufball19
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Stop building strawmen. No one is making excuses for Lindsey.
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So, if the guns belong to the known criminal thugs (most likely scenario I'd guess), and they show up at his apartment armed is that not sufficient to constitute duress?
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:56 am to Crappieman
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A firearm means ONE. What about the other three?
Please tell me you aren't actually this stupid, and you are just trolling us. Otherwise I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you on a daily basis.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:32 am to Dingeaux
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If so, that is crazy. Even if they were being held legally, seems like that would have been in the police report.
I have seen the police report seeking the arrest warrant for Lindsey written by LSU Campus Police. It goes into great detail about the fugitives being found in the room, about them and Lindsey being seen together on security cameras, and about them using Lindsey's student ID to come and go from the dorm. Not one word about any guns being found.
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US Marshalls were mentioned too
The U.S. Marshals only involvement was that it was the Fugitive Task Force that tracked the fugitives down. They had a tip that they might be in the LSU area. They asked LSU Police to be on the lookout. LSU Police matched their pictures to the security camera footage. Once they figured out where they were staying, the LSU Police, along with the U.S. Marshal's Fugitive Task Force raided the dorm room and captured the fugitives.
Because it was Lindsey's room, and they had video of the fugitives and Lindsey together, along with them having his student ID..... combined with the fact that one of Lindsey's other friends admitted to LSU Police that he had told them that he knew the fugitives were wanted for murder, LSU Police went to a 19th JDC judge and sought an arrest warrant for Lindsey on the Accessory counts, which was granted.
Lindsey lawyered up with Kris Perret, who is a former LSU football player and part of the Ossie Brown Law Firm, and turned himself in that evening.
The U.S. Marshal's report doesn't mention the guns either.
However, "a source" told Chris Nokomoto about the guns. He's the only person that has mentioned the guns.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 9:37 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:53 am to Dingeaux
I just looked on the East Baton Rouge Parish Prison's inmate list.
J.T. Lindsey has bonded out, and is no longer in custody.
Being that he's only been temporarily suspended from the football team (pending the outcome of the accessory after the fact case) and not expelled by LSU, he's likely back staying in the dorm room, preparing to begin classes.
It should also be noted that, so far, Hillar Moore's office has had nothing to do with the case. All that has occurred is that LSU Police got an arrest warrant signed by a judge.
Hillar's office likely hasn't even received the file yet from LSU Police. Once they do, Hillar will have wide latitude as to how to handle the case.
He could file a "Bill of Information" for the charges, prosecuting the charges as they were listed by LSU Police. As a first offender, he would certainly be given a plea deal to a lesser charge (misdemeanor) after going through the court process.
He could decide to charge Lindsey with a lesser offense up front (misdemeanor), likely making Lindsey eligible to play football.
Or, less likely but still possible, he could decide that since the fugitives are in custody, no harm done, and "Nolle Prosse" (refuse to prosecute) the charges. Like I said, not likely, but possible.
Whichever way he decides, it's likely to take months to resolve the case, meaning that Lindsey probably won't play this season, unless it is at the very end.
J.T. Lindsey has bonded out, and is no longer in custody.
Being that he's only been temporarily suspended from the football team (pending the outcome of the accessory after the fact case) and not expelled by LSU, he's likely back staying in the dorm room, preparing to begin classes.
It should also be noted that, so far, Hillar Moore's office has had nothing to do with the case. All that has occurred is that LSU Police got an arrest warrant signed by a judge.
Hillar's office likely hasn't even received the file yet from LSU Police. Once they do, Hillar will have wide latitude as to how to handle the case.
He could file a "Bill of Information" for the charges, prosecuting the charges as they were listed by LSU Police. As a first offender, he would certainly be given a plea deal to a lesser charge (misdemeanor) after going through the court process.
He could decide to charge Lindsey with a lesser offense up front (misdemeanor), likely making Lindsey eligible to play football.
Or, less likely but still possible, he could decide that since the fugitives are in custody, no harm done, and "Nolle Prosse" (refuse to prosecute) the charges. Like I said, not likely, but possible.
Whichever way he decides, it's likely to take months to resolve the case, meaning that Lindsey probably won't play this season, unless it is at the very end.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:54 am to SaturdayTraditions
The wording states he can have A FIREARM in his dorm, in car, or on his person when going out. It is about whats permitted. Its not worded to say multiple guns. Doesnt say he can have a multiple firearms in those places. It's a LSU rule, not about the 2nd amendment.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:03 am to Crappieman
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The wording states he can have A FIREARM in his dorm, in car, or on his person when going out. It is about whats permitted. Its not worded to say multiple guns. Doesnt say he can have a multiple firearms in those places. It's a LSU rule, not about the 2nd amendment.
It's a STATE LAW, not an LSU rule.
If you think the law mandates how many firearms you can own, then you're too big of a moron for even me to help.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:10 am to w5oer
Its not about how many you may own its about how many are you allowed to possess while on a school campus. The school can regulate the number of firearms if it so chooses, just as them permitting where you may keep one on campus. You're the moron. Ownership doesn't mean you can have or take a gun anywhere you want.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:31 am to w5oer
thanks for all this info, W5oer.
It seems like a lot of people want the gun on campus thing to be forgotten about or at least stay hidden.
Props to Nokomoto for putting it out there.
According to the rule of law, maybe the guns were OK to be there. However, given the circumstance of harboring suspected murderers in a dorm room, seems like the presence of guns is a pertinent piece of information.
I think this needs to be brought to light so people can be aware of how toothless the gun free zone on LSU's campus really is.
It seems like a lot of people want the gun on campus thing to be forgotten about or at least stay hidden.
Props to Nokomoto for putting it out there.
According to the rule of law, maybe the guns were OK to be there. However, given the circumstance of harboring suspected murderers in a dorm room, seems like the presence of guns is a pertinent piece of information.
I think this needs to be brought to light so people can be aware of how toothless the gun free zone on LSU's campus really is.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:45 am to Crappieman
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Ownership doesn't mean you can have or take a gun anywhere you want.
No, but since 2018, the State of Louisiana has decided that the dorms on college campuses are to be considered those students' homes, and have acted to protect not only their 2nd amendment rights under the US Constitution, but also their rights under the STATE Constitution. Article.1 Section 11 "The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms is fundamental and shall not be infringed. Any restriction on this right shall be subject to strict scrutiny."
Again, the exception is a STATE law. The school has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Louisiana RS 14:95.2(C) includes exceptions, one of which states that the prohibition on carrying firearms does not apply to: "A student who possesses a firearm in his dormitory room or while going to or from his vehicle or any other person with permission of the administration."
The law doesn't affect how many legal guns they can own in their homes, anymore than it affects how many legal guns you can own in your home.
You keep arguing a meaningless point, and only use your opinion to back up your argument. I suspect that you know absolutely nothing about the practice of the law. I am, in fact, a paralegal that has worked for a law firm that handled numerous gun cases, which is why I use cites of the law and fact to back up my points.
The exemption only applies to within the student's dorm room and the student's privately owned vehicle. It does not cover ANYWHERE else on campus, which is still a gun free zone.
I suggest you listen more than you speak, you just might learn something.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:54 am to w5oer
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Hillar's office likely hasn't even received the file yet from LSU Police. Once they do, Hillar will have wide latitude as to how to handle the case.
He could file a "Bill of Information" for the charges, prosecuting the charges as they were listed by LSU Police. As a first offender, he would certainly be given a plea deal to a lesser charge (misdemeanor) after going through the court process.
That is assuming that Lindsey wasn't contacting them while they were still in Alex. or while he was home visiting, etc. There is a world where he could be dragged back to Rapides on the accessory charge.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:56 am to w5oer
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Louisiana RS 14:95.2(C) includes exceptions, one of which states that the prohibition on carrying firearms does not apply to: "A student who possesses a firearm in his dormitory room or while going to or from his vehicle or any other person with permission of the administration."
No argument on the interpretation of those exceptions, but if the law as written allows the small arsenal that Lindsey had in that room--it is a mockery of the "gun-free" zone to begin with.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:07 am to Indefatigable
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There is a world where he could be dragged back to Rapides on the accessory charge.
I agree, that is true. But, with him having Kris Perret as his attorney, I doubt it would happen though.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:14 am to w5oer
I still want to know how LSU has managed to maintain a firearm policy in stark contradiction of state law and state constitutional protections. I even looked at the LSU Residence Life contract (in handbook I previously linked) and it prohibits firearms. How did both LSU's policy statement and the contract pass the university's attorney's review? This almost has to be a deliberate not an accidental oversight. They typically scrutinize legal issues and also go out of way to avoid offending anyone or violating rights.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:27 am to Indefatigable
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it is a mockery of the "gun-free" zone to begin with.
Not really. The exception only applies to very limited areas, the home (dorm) and the privately owned vehicle. Both of these areas are meant to be covered under the "Castle Doctrine" anyway. If it weren't for the gun free zone, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
LSU's campus is still a gun free zone. 99% of the campus, you get caught carrying a gun, you go straight to jail.
The exception was only written to protect those students, who are law abiding adults and otherwise legally eligible to own and possess firearms.
It allows them to exercise both their rights under the US Constitution, as well as their rights under the state Constitution within the confines of their home or vehicle, both very limited areas of campus.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:29 am to w5oer
Im sure the wanta be lawyer knows it all. Ive a sneaky feeling he isn't the lawful owner of any of those guns.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:33 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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LSU has managed to maintain a firearm policy
Likely, LSU's policy covers the entirety of campus, while hoping that most students won't know about the exceptions allowed by state law in their dorm rooms.
Makes me wonder if the football players aren't given a little bit more knowledge than the rest of the student body.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:37 am to Crappieman
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Ive a sneaky feeling he isn't the lawful owner of any of those guns.
Has ANYONE been charged for the guns? The serial numbers were run. My point is made.
Thank you, please tip your waiter on the way out.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:43 am to w5oer
The ATF hasn't spoken just yet.
Tell us JT, what were you thinking?
Tell us JT, what were you thinking?
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:47 am to w5oer
quote:Given the percentage chance of running afoul of the law, I dont think the teachings are taking hold.
Makes me wonder if the football players aren't given a little bit more knowledge than the rest of the student body.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:37 pm to Crappieman
What evidence is everyone going by to say that these guns didn't belong to the jugitive's? Trying to say that Lindsey owned all these guns on campus in his dorm is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 12:51 pm
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