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re: Did Chavis begin to trust his CBs in the 2nd half?

Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:22 am to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:22 am to
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when martin made that late pass breakup on 4th down, i was like frick, AGAIN? as the play was happening...then martin came the frick out of nowhere.
We did the same thing... I screamed at the TV, Martin wasnt even in the camera frame. Then at the last second he showed up. We were thrilled.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3218 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:24 am to
I hate the what if and they always include the Honey Badger, even though he was kicked off the team
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:26 am to
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Looks like it was either give up the points or get called for assault. WR got behind him and he got there too late.



Needs to be taught to go for the assault. 15 yard penalty vs TD is a no brainer. Once he was beat he should have mauled the guy.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94777 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:30 am to
Very true.

At the same time, he's young (sorry Moustache. He's not NFL ready just yet)
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19545 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:38 am to
Yeah Thompson should have grabbed him but if he reacted sooner he might have turned his head. We need more DB's seeing the ball.

Saying that the moo st QBs were regressing is crazy. They came back to earth maybe. It's not like either has crazy good numbers. I'd say Russell played over his head
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:44 am to
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but the QB's regressing


Correct. Prescott came down to earth. He played way over his head the first half. I think he's weak mentally to tell you the truth. At one point he looked like he quit.

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Maybe the reason they weren't accurate because they had a LB or a DB up their arse and they have to get the ball out in a hurry. QB pressure causes that.


MSU had receivers running free throughout the second half. That's why Matt Mullen was saying MSU was close. If they had a competent QB it's a track meet like the UGA game. On the White INT we didn't have a DB within 10 yard of the MSU receiver it was just an awful pass.
As for pressure: 1 sack doesn't = consistent pressure. MSU had 1 punt the entire game.
We are fortunate in that we play Florida this week. It will give our young guys some experience without the pressure of playing against an overly dynamic offense.


Posted by ThreauxDown11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2013
1655 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:54 am to
White and Robinson played pretty good especially for freshman. Thompson blew one play trying to avoid pass interference, but for the most part did well. White made a few mistakes, but the pressure helped him out. On his interception he drops to far in his zone and leaves a huge gap. If the ball hadn't been forced out it would have been a 15 yard pass, but shitty throw because of pressure and White took advantage. The D played better. Kwon did well in place of Boyd and Barrow was all in Prescott's arse in the second half. He's a good Pass rushing LBer. He should end up with a few sacks. There was definitely a little more trust and I think we should stick with the defensive formula we had for state and see how it works on Florida.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94777 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:59 am to
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MSU had receivers running free throughout the second half.


....and the reasoning behind the QB's not completing the passes because of the pressure.

Do what you can though, to take everything away from what LSU done and put everything on Miss. St.

No credit to LSU.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:05 am to
The thing Sat. that troubled most is LSU DF. looks like they have never tackled anyone in their life's. Arm tackles will not work with the teams we play in the future. Most of us learned how to tackle in pop Warner!
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:32 am to
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and the reasoning behind the QB's not completing the passes because of the pressure.


I thought I had explained it. There was no real, consistent pressure in the second half except for the 1 sack. We go up 38-26 & they quit. That's it.

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Do what you can though, to take everything away from what LSU done and put everything on Miss. St


What did Chavis do? Sub more? Run a LB blitz once?We still allowed WR's to run free. They still missed tackles. MSU only punted once deep in the 4th. There was still confusion. It's the 6 game your up by 3 TD's and you still can't figure out who to cover? I'm just not buying that anything is "fixed" anymore than I bought we were a "great" defense after the Kent State game like some were saying. My problem with this year's D is not with the players. It's the coaching. You watch a D like TCU, their players are always in the right spot executing the defense. That's coaching. Eventually, our talent & depth overcomes them and that's it. As a fan I can live with that. But when I watch Thompson at safety turn 180 on the snap with his back to the QB, then back to see where the play is, then rush over to help but the pass is complete because by then he's way out of position. That's poor technique. That's coaching.
They - the coaches - had all spring, summer,& fall camp to figure this out. 6 games in & you have Barrow covering MSU's fastest, quickest, player? 6 games in & they can't get lined up right? That is a coaching issue.
End Rant.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7875 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:35 am to
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he played the WR instead of the ball. he had good coverage and the DB was about to go out of bounds but the db changed direction at the last second and run right under the pass, thompson couldn't make that move in time and was a little out of position.


Very accurate statement. A lot of the time our DBs play the receiver and not the ball. My freshmen high school coach told me that and it made a world of difference for me. I know our players are being taught that just not executing at times. Lack of ball skills from our safeties it seems.
Posted by stingercj7
Florida
Member since Oct 2009
161 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:36 am to
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Robinson and white should be starting from here on out.

Oh, and keep loston on the bench



I agree
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:37 am to
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Loved the "What if" scenario they threw in our face during the game. "What if"....Michael Brockers, Sam Montgomery, Mingo, Kevin Minter, Tyrann, and Eric Reid did not leave early/etc and all were still wearing purple and gold. Ridiculous.


I used to wonder if, had we beaten Bama on 1/9, these guys would have the want to come back to LSU for the three-peat.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94777 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:38 am to
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I'm just not buying that anything is "fixed" anymore than I bought we were a "great" defense after the Kent State game like some were saying.

Who is saying it's "fixed?" No one here thinks this is a championship defense.

But to say they didn't come out and put pressure on Miss. St. and they just "quit," is offensive to be honest. If LSU didn't do anything different in the 2nd half, it would have been another shootout. Miss. St. turned the ball over. They made errant throws.

You're giving LSU absolutely ZERO credit for any of that and blaming it on "oh, Miss. St. just quit."

Who made them quit? Let me guess. Themselves?
Posted by stingercj7
Florida
Member since Oct 2009
161 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:40 am to
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Robinson and white should be starting from here on out.

Oh, and keep loston on the bench



Maybe..but It seems Loston is rarely even in my TV screen when he needs to make a play. If he is, he takes a bad angle trying to kill the guy and misses or deflects off the opponent.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7875 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:40 am to
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Collins should be the only pure starter at corner, whereas Mills, Robinson, and White needs to be heavily looked at. It is starting to get ridiculous. I didn't see Mills jumping around like a baby about safety help against Miss St so I am happy that was at least addressed.


Are you kidding me?? Collins should be the only pure starter? What are you smoking
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71329 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:46 am to
.Michael Brockers, Sam Montgomery, Mingo, Kevin Minter, Tyrann, and Eric Reid LSU defense that gave up the winning td in 30 seconds.

They let Bama win and left


:boo:
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:58 am to
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quote:Collins should be the only pure starter at corner, whereas Mills, Robinson, and White needs to be heavily looked at. It is starting to get ridiculous. I didn't see Mills jumping around like a baby about safety help against Miss St so I am happy that was at least addressed. Are you kidding me?? Collins should be the only pure starter? What are you smoking


Yeah I was just pretending like he got the names mixed up.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:00 am to
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But to say they didn't come out and put pressure on Miss. St. and they just "quit," is offensive to be honest.


I certainly wasn't trying to offend you. I'm surprised anyone would be offended in what amounts to football analysis. I do apologize. To be more exact - Prescott quit. To me he just gave up after the missed FG. Russell just seemed to fade the longer the game went. I don't know if he should be playing at all.

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Who made them quit? Let me guess. Themselves?


It's not like we were flexing our muscles and dominating. They still had WR's running free even after we put the game away. Their last drive: 1st play 10 yards. Still gashing us. That's why I said earlier if they had a competent QB it's probably a track meet. We did give up nearly 200 yds in the 2nd half.

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You're giving LSU absolutely ZERO credit for any of that


I credit the LSU offense for scoring every chance they got & putting the game out of reach. It was the offense that broke MSU not the D. The offense is simply brutal.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:19 am to
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Also, has Moustache been banned since for his 2 week, Hitler-style tirades trying to convince everyone that LSU is in for 6 straight losing seasons from here on out?



I thought my nuts felt a bit heavy today. I'd appreciate it if you stop the stalking.

Also, link to where I said we'd have 6 straight losing seasons.

All I've said was that we have a little talent problem on D. Last year's recruiting class was seemingly good, but it's hard to expect sophomores to anchor the team next year, so I think 2014 is a rebuilding year for us with a new QB.
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