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re: Detillier says he believes Canada is out

Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:28 pm to
Admittedly, I missed the point of your post that I quoted... my bad.. I still stand by what I said, I just won’t direct it towards you or what you said
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Absolutely it makes sense...... if you’re an offensive minded coach..

Orgeron doesn’t have his own offense... he doesn’t have an elaborate playbook... he let Canada do his own thing, yet tried to tweak it a little in a game where he probably thought he’d have a little wiggle room... it backfired on him and he didn’t do it (noticeably) again.

Don't you think a coach should at least have some kind of offensive philosophy in mind that he wants for his program in order for him to tailor his offensive coaching hires and offensive recruiting?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Don't you think a coach should at least have some kind of offensive philosophy in mind that he wants for his program in order for him to tailor his offensive coaching hires and offensive recruiting?



Saban doesnt.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:30 pm to
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LSU was averaging 10 penalties per game. Remember? You were probably one of the people bitching about it. To reduce penalties and help the young players he instructed Canada to cut back on all the motion.


Through the first 4 games LSU had 7 total pre-snap offensive penalties. 5 of those came against BYU, 1 each against Chatt and MSU. So if it's generally accepted that Oregeron stepped in during Troy preparation, then he stepped in about two games after it stopped being a problem.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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34925 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:31 pm to
Can we go ahead and inject some CLM shite in this thread so it goes another 20 pages??
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:32 pm to
Saban has an overall philosophy, which was successful for a number of years and won him a few nattys. Once it became dated, he brought in Kiffin to modernize his offense to mesh with the changing landscape of CFB.,
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I think Canada's offense can work but it's obvious that even Orgeron didn't like his offense.


What would lead you to post this bullshite?

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What does it say about a coach that he has no plan in place after his plan A falls through,


He did have a plan in place. Kiffin got a HC job and Eaux hired the only Broyles Award finalist the prior year as OC. That was one hell of a backup plan.

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then he tries to modify that guy's offense?


He only cut down on the motions to help alleviate the amount of penalties and help out the young players on offense. I think a lot of coaches would have done it.

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Does this seriously not scream poor program management to you guys?


You're a drama queen. He did it for one half of one game.

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Why is someone that's running a major football program prone to making "splash" hires?


He's just good at what he does. He is as good at making hires as he is at recruiting, maybe better. Is the new O-line coach a splash hire?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Once it became dated, he brought in Kiffin to modernize his offense to mesh with the changing landscape of CFB.,


That's why he is the GOAT.............
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Saban doesnt.

Lol yes he does. Everywhere he's been his phisophy has been to have a big offensive line, big physical backs in order to establish the run first and foremost and a QB who won't necessarily set the world on fire but won't lose games for him. Last season Saban recognized he needed to evolve Bama's offensive philosophies to fit the trends of today's game and hired Kiffin to help do just that. Kiffin left but a lot of what he brought stayed. To act like Saban just sits back and allows Bama to run whatever kind of offense his OC wants is just plain stupid. He is the most meticulous man in college football. He has a philosophy on both sides of the ball and tailors his hires and recruiting accordingly
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Saban has an overall philosophy, which was successful for a number of years and won him a few nattys. Once it became dated, he brought in Kiffin to modernize his offense to mesh with the changing landscape of CFB.,



so it changes based on the coordinator.

Exactly what you say Ogeron shouldnt do....



fricking imbeciles.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:35 pm to
Jesus Christ you are dense
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:35 pm to
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or having an emotional agenda against their favorite team at worst.


Agree with everything in your post. But will point out that this is the internet. Don't be fooled into thinking LSU is the favorite team for everyone posting in this thread.
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:36 pm to
The O haters are working overtime. Truth be known they are starting to get a little worried O may be headed in the right direction. Not a one of these gutless mouth breathers will ever admit they are wrong.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:37 pm to
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There have been plenty of red flags with Orgeron this year


Want to list a few of the red flags?


Unbelievable amount of made up shite being posted on the board today.


You are fricking blind if you think Orgeron didnt show red flags this year after the Troy loss. He was lost in the media most of the year and made really idiotic, damaging, unnecessary comments. He couldnt get on page with his OC. He labeled people out with injuries in his Monday press conference and then labeled them questionable on Thursday. Thats not how that works lol. I have said many times there were some encouraging things he did as well but to say Orgeron didnt show red flags is outright dumb.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290863 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:38 pm to
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so it changes based on the coordinator.

Exactly what you say Ogeron shouldnt do....



You like how that works huh lol
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:38 pm to
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The O haters are working overtime. Truth be known they are starting to get a little worried O may be headed in the right direction. Not a one of these gutless mouth breathers will ever admit they are wrong.




It'll be hilarious as he continues to succeed.

watch them still bitch and whine.
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:39 pm to
There are paid trolls in this thread. 100% fact
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:39 pm to
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I think Canada's offense can work but it's obvious that even Orgeron didn't like his offense


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What would lead you to post this bullshite?


We've been through this. He modified Canada's offense. This is a matter of public record.
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He did have a plan in place. Kiffin got a HC job and Eaux hired the only Broyles Award finalist the prior year as OC. That was one hell of a backup plan.


So he hires a Broyles award finalist and then proceeds to change the guy's offense? Sounds like he didn't have much respect for Canada's accolades.

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You're a drama queen. He did it for one half of one game.


He doesn't have the expertise to be changing a Broyles award finalist's offense at all. What awards has Orgeron been in the running for?
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Did everyone get hit with the "stupid" stick this morning?

If Canada is out it is most probably because he has a job offer as a head coach. How could hiring a guy who is coveted as a head coach be considered as a failed hire ????


What HC job is he gonna get chief? He is taking another OC job.


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Did everyone get hit with the "stupid" stick this morning


Clearly you did.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23244 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:39 pm to
I wouldn't doubt him.
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