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re: Detillier says he believes Canada is out
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:27 am to adamb2151
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:27 am to adamb2151
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he had learned from previous failures, and he is not following through with them
Interesting statement. What "them" is he not following through with?
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and his ego took off as soon as he got that 12 million dollar buyout
You noticed the change? Seems like the same coach and guy to me.
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:27 am to BilJ
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Why would you hire Canada when you're dead set on running the USC offense?
we're coordinator dependent and O bumbled his first big hire. But hey I'm sure he'll get it right this next time
Canada wasn’t bad though, consider
-we had about 10 missed TDs in the air from either dropped passes or missed throws. You can’t fault him if his plays work but can’t be executed by our players
- we had terrible WRs. Chark is a WR3 masking as a WR1 & Gage would have never seen the field on any team in the Saban-Miles-O era
- Guice ran hurt for 65% of the season
- young OL took 5-6 games to gel
All in all he did a good job masking these deficiencies. When the OL came together & Guice got healthy this offense was pretty good.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:29 am to Tiger Ree
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I would hope so. Not every head coach hires a Broyles Award finalist as their OC. He definitely deserves the credit.
then decided he didn't like the offense and tried to pull the plug on it 4 games into the season and now trying to run the guy out of town. Why would you hire a guy who's offense so greatly differs from what you want to run?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:30 am to Goldrush25
Jesus Christ dude, I love what he is doing in recruiting in the trenches. Lsu is going to be a monster on the DL next year. They just got an upgrade on the OL and if they keep 1 or 2 of juniors will have a dominant OL. Thank God he doesn't have miles players anymore going forward. He had destroyed us in the trenches. You are nothing more than a paid troll, and if you are legit then you have some serious problems
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:30 am to Lester Earl
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we had terrible WRs. Chark is a WR3 masking as a WR1 & Gage would have never seen the field on any team in the Saban-Miles-O era
Good luck convincing the natives of that one. Next year will be even worse.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
Keep Money Mayweather and his stools away from BR and we beat bama.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
I'm not saying Canada was a bad hire, I like him.
But he was a bad hire for what O wants to run apparently
But he was a bad hire for what O wants to run apparently
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:31 am to Nomojeaux
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I'm not a part of the O fan club. I do like the direction of program currently and the opportunity to perhaps finish in top 10. Yes, that sounds like a program going down the shitter
In its simplest form if Canada is out after this year, it will go down as a failed hire by Orgeron. And it was a pretty important hire. Does it mean it will negatively affect LSU next year? Absolutely not and it could help LSU. Time will tell.
There have been plenty of red flags with Orgeron this year and if anyone denies that, they are blind or lying. There were also some positives from Orgeron this year and reasons to look forward with optimism. I dont hate O but I absolutely hated the process. It will be interesting to see next year. Hoping for the best.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:31 am to BilJ
Serious question? Hopefully you have the character to answer honestly. How old are you?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:32 am to Lester Earl
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Why would you hire Canada when you're dead set on running the USC offense?
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Canada wasn’t bad though, consider
That doesn't answer the question. Why can't anyone answer the question? Why did Orgeron hire Canada if he wanted Kiffin's offense, or a USC offense? Whatever he said he wanted, Canada's offense isn't that.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:33 am to Nomojeaux
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Hopefully you have the character to answer honestly.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:34 am to Tiger Ree
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he had learned from previous failures, and he is not following through with them
Interesting statement. What "them" is he not following through with?
Did you miss the part where he said in the past he was too involved with the offense and he was gonna hire the best offensive coaches and let them coach, and then he made Canada change his offense and we lost to Troy? Then the AD had to have a private meeting with him and make him let his coaches coach?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:34 am to Goldrush25
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Why can't anyone answer the question?
The question has been answered.
He needed a "splash" name to replace Kiffin. Canada was that.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:37 am to jcole4lsu
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The question has been answered. He needed a "splash" name to replace Kiffin. Canada was that.
And people are happy with that process?
I think Canada's offense can work but it's obvious that even Orgeron didn't like his offense. What does it say about a coach that he has no plan in place after his plan A falls through, he makes a "splash" hire, then he tries to modify that guy's offense?
Does this seriously not scream poor program management to you guys? Why is someone that's running a major football program prone to making "splash" hires?
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 11:39 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:39 am to TigersFan64
This isn't the first time he has said this. A few weeks ago he said he would be surprised if Canada was still here for the bowl game.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:39 am to BayouBengals03
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quote: ...and that's worse than the cult of One of Us that sees their leader as infallible? How many of those are there really on here?
Exactly.
It almost seems that to point out where Coach Orgeron has had success, and where this team had success this past season is enough to enrage the ContraO crowd. It's sad for LSU football.
Of course he's not infallible, did we not lose to State, terribly and Troy? But to deny the rest of the season and the possibility of a ten-win season is blinkered at best, or having an emotional agenda against their favorite team at worst.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:40 am to Goldrush25
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And people are happy with that process?
I think Canada's offense can work but it's obvious that even Orgeron didn't like his offense. What does it say about a coach that he has no plan in place after his plan A falls through, he makes a "splash" hire, then he tries to modify that guy's offense?
Does this seriously not scream poor program management to you guys?
Exactly. The fact that LSU fans trash Canada and his resume calling him a malcontent, then give O a pass for hiring a poor candidate, because his other candidate fell through and he needed to make a splash hire by hiring a Broyles award finalist?
I feel like I am taking crazy pills.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:40 am to Goldrush25
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And people are happy with that process?
I think Canada's offense can work but it's obvious that even Orgeron didn't like his offense. What does it say about a coach that he has no plan in place after his plan A falls through, he makes a "splash" hire, then he tries to modify that guy's offense?
Does this seriously not scream poor program management to you guys?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:41 am to jcole4lsu
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Good luck convincing the natives of that one. Next year will be even worse.
Disagree completely. Our young guys have Nfl attributes & the Texas tech guy brings a veteran presence
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:42 am to adamb2151
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Exactly. The fact that LSU fans trash Canada and his resume calling him a malcontent
and its not like this was not known. Hell, it was brought up here and most shrugged the issues because they were due to the HC meddling with his offense, but O wasn't going to do that here, right?
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