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re: Details on Kyren Lacy released by Houston Police
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:06 am to MaxxPain2
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:06 am to MaxxPain2
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Stayed true to his convictions...the gangs and guns cultural he so glorified is how he went out.
I'm not aware of any of that, outside his "gun" salute after scoring, which lots of kids have done.
He just made some bad choices. Its mentally healthier to fess up than to run and hope it goes away.
I dont know his "culture" and am not going to pretend hes a "thug"
Kids today arent given the coping skills necessary to deal with real life scenarios. Its epidemic.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm not aware of any of that, outside his "gun" salute after scoring, which lots of kids have done.
And this would be the very definition of glorifying the gangs and guns cultural on the biggest stage of his life he's choosing to simulate shooting someone....live by the sword die by sword.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:26 am to MaxxPain2
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And this would be the very definition of glorifying the gangs and guns cultural
I love guns. Used to play cowboys and indians. Didnt make me a thug.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
Boys/men have very little role models growing up. I’m not saying anything specific about this man, because I don’t know anything about his actual life.
From my experience, I see a lot of young men in serious predicaments due to their emotions getting the better of them. Posters on here will say “that’s the father’s job” and I totally agree a Father's role is teaching that. But what if the Father had no guidance, or his father? Etc. etc.
I think schools should devote some time to life skills even if at elementary or junior high levels more so than worrying about shite people need to know. In high school, there’s these stupid tests that everyone needs to pass. A guy can’t control his emotions, another can’t comprehend a checkbook, another has no clue how land is sold, etc etc. but those bastards will know how to conjugate or how to do geometry.
And yes it’s ALL important but if we don’t start teaching life skills at school too, we aren’t going to get better.
Emotions and hormones will keep flowing and young men will keep making tragic decisions.
Again nothing I said here is related to Lacy as I have no clue how, if anything, would apply to him. I’m sorry for his family’s loss.
From my experience, I see a lot of young men in serious predicaments due to their emotions getting the better of them. Posters on here will say “that’s the father’s job” and I totally agree a Father's role is teaching that. But what if the Father had no guidance, or his father? Etc. etc.
I think schools should devote some time to life skills even if at elementary or junior high levels more so than worrying about shite people need to know. In high school, there’s these stupid tests that everyone needs to pass. A guy can’t control his emotions, another can’t comprehend a checkbook, another has no clue how land is sold, etc etc. but those bastards will know how to conjugate or how to do geometry.
And yes it’s ALL important but if we don’t start teaching life skills at school too, we aren’t going to get better.
Emotions and hormones will keep flowing and young men will keep making tragic decisions.
Again nothing I said here is related to Lacy as I have no clue how, if anything, would apply to him. I’m sorry for his family’s loss.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:34 am to LSBoosie
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Lacy was arguing with a family member shortly after 11 p.m. Saturday. He reportedly pulled out a gun and shot it at the ground before leaving the area.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:37 am to Red Stick Tigress
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The lack of empathy/sympathy and cold-heartedness exhibited by many so called fans is discouraging.
I think this stems from the suicide part. There will never be empathy for someone who kills themselves regardless if they were an athlete or not
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:39 am to Flyingtiger82
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Correct. Guys have always done risky stuff, pushed limites etc. Its part of who we are. But, dealing with the aftermath or dealing with failure was also part of who we were.
I dont see that anymore. I see the risky behavior, I just dont see the responsibility that also should be a part of the equation nearly as often.
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nd yes it’s ALL important but if we don’t start teaching life skills at school too, we aren’t going to get better.
Emotions and hormones will keep flowing and young men will keep making tragic decisions.
Correct. Guys have always done risky stuff, pushed limites etc. Its part of who we are. But, dealing with the aftermath or dealing with failure was also part of who we were.
I dont see that anymore. I see the risky behavior, I just dont see the responsibility that also should be a part of the equation nearly as often.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:39 am to Tblock
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Some kids just are not ready for the world.
Maybe had the mentality of a kid, but the last time I checked, 24 is a an ADULT and an adult is RESPONSIBLE for his or her actions. I did stupid stuff when I was young, but I never caused a death, and I came close just once, but the death would have been my own. Most 24 year olds have careers and some have families. One poor decision after another. Hate it that he's gone, but he's not innocent by any stretch.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:46 am to WigSplitta22
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I think this stems from the suicide part. There will never be empathy for someone who kills themselves regardless if they were an athlete or not
Not true at all. I have known 3 orn4 people that have died by their own hand and one being my first cousin.
There was a lot of support for the families of the people I knew.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:48 am to LSBoosie
prayers for him and his family... very sad...
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:49 am to Flyingtiger82
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And yes it’s ALL important but if we don’t start teaching life skills at school too, we aren’t going to get better.
Jesus is absent from public schooling friend.
Has it ever occurred to you that the forces who made that so are also the forces systematically eroding the nuclear family?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:49 am to Solo Cam
Never said it was normal behavior but you don't know both sides of the story either. What was she doing to him and what was the verbal altercation about?
There's his side, her side and then somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
We'll never have that because Kyren is dead.
Just don't make up stuff to be more dramatic.
There's his side, her side and then somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
We'll never have that because Kyren is dead.
Just don't make up stuff to be more dramatic.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:53 am to Red Stick Tigress
Ma'am you'll have a hard time convincing me that anything in the 11pm argument necessitated his popping off a firearm. Had he not done that he would be alive today.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:53 am to Red Stick Tigress
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I personally know an ex-LSU/NFL player that believes another ex-NFL player is Elohim (most people refer to as God) and believes himself to be an Archangel. The believers have moved into the ex-LSU/NFL player's house, have baptisms in his swimming pool, have Sunday Facebook preaching sessions, publicly punish wrongdoers, make the women followers cover their heads, male followers have longer beards and dreadlocks. Elohim decides which people are "married" and declared the Archangel married to a young woman before said Archangel was divorced from the mother of his 5 children. Said young woman became pregnant while Archangel was still legally married to wife. New wife and Archangel couple isn't married in the eyes of the laws of the state they live in.
All of the followers must work (Door Dash, etc.) and pay Elohim a tithe based on their income including the ex-LSU/NFL guy who owns a business, while Elohim sits on his fat arse and abuses his followers or instructs the men of the group to carry out the punishments.
They call themselves Black Hebrews. I call it brainwashing and a cult.
I guess any behavior that doesn't seem "normal" could be CTE but we'll never know until it can be diagnosed in living people.
I pray that the ex-LSU/NFL player gets a wake up call to this nonsense.
Wow!! I need to hear more about this story
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:59 am to Red Stick Tigress
quote:She never put hands on him but even if she did you think it's ever appropriate to take out a gun and fire it near your sister to intimidate her? That's pussy thug behavior.
Never said it was normal behavior but you don't know both sides of the story either. What was she doing to him and what was the verbal altercation about?
quote:Did she ever kill someone, circle the scene then leave? She ever fired a gun to intimidate family? She ever run from the cops in a high speed chase?
There's his side, her side and then somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
We'll never have that because Kyren is dead.
Just don't make up stuff to be more dramatic.
I'm not making anything up to be dramatic. I'm calling a spade a spade.
On the other hand, you're doing everything you can to be ignorantly charitable because he wore colors you like and played ball for a team you liked.
One question - if you had son and a daughter and they were arguing and she said some awful, fricked up stuff to him so he took out a gun and fired a couple of shots at her feet - you'd be ok with that behavior because she was so mean and hurt his feelings so much that he decided to use a gun to intimidate his own family?
ETA: I was wrong Kyren did not circle the scene. He fled the scene but did not circle. Not editing out so everyone knows what I said and why other folks responded as such.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:59 am to Tiger Ryno
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I need to hear more
That's all I know for now.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:00 am to ApexTiger
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We’re all saddened by this, but we’re trying to make sense of it
Killing yourself after a high-speed chase is quite interesting
High speed is what got other people killed and why he was going to be in court today
So it seems he didn’t learn anything…
From killing someone going fast
Is that sound about right or do we have the facts incorrect?
There are so many questions surrounding this for me. What was the argument with the family member regarding? Why did he pull a gun and shoot a shot into the ground? Why steal her car?
It's not a defense of his actions at all but that all seems like the actions of a person who, at least at the time was deeply disturbed mentally. Allegedly driving like a jackass and causing an accident, while extremely dangerous and selfish, doesn't come across to me as a mental breakdown type deal. That just seems like immature decision making.
This situation from Saturday just seems different. Something clearly went wrong in his head that night.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:06 am to Solo Cam
Where was it said he shot at her feet?
I am saying we don't have both sides of the story.
Not being charitable because he played for LSU. I am being charitable because this is a terrible situation any way you look at it and two families are without their loved ones.
If you don't think that social media crucifying Lacy in a public opinion poll didn't have something to do with his mental health, there is nothing more to say.
By all accounts from former coaches and teammates that Kyren was a good guy. He made poor decisions and that is part of growing up.
I am saying we don't have both sides of the story.
Not being charitable because he played for LSU. I am being charitable because this is a terrible situation any way you look at it and two families are without their loved ones.
If you don't think that social media crucifying Lacy in a public opinion poll didn't have something to do with his mental health, there is nothing more to say.
By all accounts from former coaches and teammates that Kyren was a good guy. He made poor decisions and that is part of growing up.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:07 am to white beans
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Had he not done that he would be alive today
But maybe not tomorrow if he was that unstable to kill himself Saturday night.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:14 am to Red Stick Tigress
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Never said it was normal behavior but you don't know both sides of the story either. What was she doing to him and what was the verbal altercation about?
There's his side, her side and then somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
We'll never have that because Kyren is dead.
Just don't make up stuff to be more dramatic.
So if Lacy played for Bama, would you be defending him to the hilt like you are? I know this is emotional for you, but making excuse after excuse for someone's poor decisions is not conducive to success. It's everyone else's fault, correct? What the sister was saying or doing is completely irrelevant when it comes to pulling a gun and discharging it intentionally. But I believe in personal responsibility and using logic when evaluating situations. Others like to use emotions and defend people who should not be defended.
Also the whole "Don't Judge Me" rhetoric has gotten out of control. Sometimes, you need to call a spade, a spade. Doing so is not "Judging" someone, rather, it's merely speaking the truth and pointing out the obvious. By doing so, it could be helpful to others.
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