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Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:11 pm to Locoguan0
Objection! Speculation.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:19 pm to Big4SALTbro
No. But considering he killed himself I think it’s safe to assume he wasn’t mentally stable.
Reading between the lines it seems like his family tried to stop him from killing himself and then he freaked out and ran.
With all of that being said, there’s a difference between showing zero regard for your own life and shooting at your sister. That’s all I’m saying.
Reading between the lines it seems like his family tried to stop him from killing himself and then he freaked out and ran.
With all of that being said, there’s a difference between showing zero regard for your own life and shooting at your sister. That’s all I’m saying.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:34 pm to moneyg
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In front of him as he was traveling in the wrong lane giving oncoming traffic nowhere to go?
Like I said. How about the Lacy contingent just lay out the facts as they know it. Simply saying “it was in front of him” is suspiciously lacking in detail. Saying “the DA hasn’t accepted charges” is suspiciously off base given that it’s common to defer to a GJ in high profile cases. Saying “why wasn’t another driver charged criminally” is suspiciously off base given that drivers in accidents are often sued civilly even when they didn’t cause the accident.
This all sounds like misdirection. Lay out the facts. Explain to me why Lacy didn’t cause or contribute to the accident. Explain why he fled. Then explain why he was so distraught that he killed himself even though his attorney was almost certain this would be completely resolved for him the next day.
To be clear: I’m 100% not trying to do what you seem to be accusing me of doing. I am, in no way, implying that Lacy being behind the Kia Sorento makes him innocent.
I’m saying that to many of us, the LSP statement always implied he was behind the Sorento (despite some folks claiming that this is a new development that directly contradicts LSP’s account of the events).
Yes - he can still cause the entire accident, through his own reckless acts, without being ahead of the Kia Sorento. I think there’s probably a legitimate question of whether the state would be able to actually get a conviction on the negligent homicide charge, but that’s a bit of a different discussion IMO. Ultimately, if he was indeed passing at high speed in a no-passing zone (and causing cars to swerve out of the way) it’s still reckless and caused the chain of events to unfold.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:40 pm to lostinbr
When you're passing cars on a two lane road you have to go faster than the posted speed limit. Even if passing legally, there's always the possibility that someone turns into the opposing lane from a driveway or side road.
I would like to see how fast the police thought he was going
I would like to see how fast the police thought he was going
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:45 pm to LSBoosie
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He basically confirmed what another poster said, but said that the other poster was incorrect.
The other poster was incorrect. People are assuming that the police were originally called over a fight or argument Kyren was having with family. Kyren was trying to do the act in his mom's house & she tried to intervene. The warning shot was meant to stop his mom from making an attempt to stop him from leaving in his car. She knew if he left, he wasn’t coming back alive which had to make it an extremely intense & emotional situation altogether.
The police had been originally called because of the suicide situation & not because Kyren was trying to harm his mom nor did the police just happen to cross paths with him & get behind Kyren for speeding. Everything that occurred Saturday night was due to Kyren being intent on ending his life then & there.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:47 pm to scottyd
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shooting at your sister.
This did not happen
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:50 pm to moneyg
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Then explain why he was so distraught that he killed himself even though his attorney was almost certain this would be completely resolved for him the next day.
Because him taking his own life had way more to do with just the wreck situation. I swear the average person is so frickin simple minded.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:51 pm to BigBrod81
But why?!?!? Why did he want to end his life?!? We’ll never really know I suppose.
Sucks big time for everyone involved stemming back from that December afternoon.
Sucks big time for everyone involved stemming back from that December afternoon.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:53 pm to BigBrod81
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People are assuming that the police were originally called over a fight or argument Kyren was having with family.
Ok.
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Kyren was trying to do the act in his mom's house & she tried to intervene. The warning shot was meant to stop his mom from making an attempt to stop him from leaving in his car.
Do you not consider this an argument? The post you responded to said "Police were called because there was an altercation involving him in which he discharged a firearm towards family members." You said that statement was incorrect then followed it up with a post that said "The altercation began" and basically described exactly that.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:55 pm to LSBoosie
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Do you not consider this an argument? The post you responded to said "Police were called because there was an altercation involving him in which he discharged a firearm towards family members." You said that statement was incorrect then followed it up with a post that said "The altercation began" and basically described exactly that.
I said what I said because several posters in this thread posted in terms of making it seem like Kyren flipped out & was attempting to harm his own family members.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:58 pm to BigBrod81
I'm just going off who you responded to. You specifically quoted the guy that said "Police were called because there was an altercation involving him in which he discharged a firearm towards family members." and said that was false.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:59 pm to BigBrod81
You seem to be making a lot of excuses and justifying what he did….
Why?
What dog do you have in this fight?
Why?
What dog do you have in this fight?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:01 pm to BigBrod81
It did
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:03 pm to TheRouxGuru
i bet i know
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:06 pm to LSBoosie
He should have used the word incident instead of altercation. Semantics.
His mom is a counselor. She probably thought she could talk him off the ledge. When that didn't happen police were called to maybe disarm him? They should have gotten an ambo to take him to a hospital for psych evaluation.
His mom is a counselor. She probably thought she could talk him off the ledge. When that didn't happen police were called to maybe disarm him? They should have gotten an ambo to take him to a hospital for psych evaluation.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:22 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Assuming what has been put forward is true
Kyren's disrupted attempt inside the house led him to discharging the weapon outside so that he might make his way to the car. He then got in the car and drove around for a bit prior to HPD's pursuit that lasted long enough for them to report it as a chase.
Wouldn't it seem more expedient to just discharge the weapon with intent there in the yard? Or at first opportunity once he was away in the car?
We'll never know of course, but the logic does not compute.
I don't think it's a stretch for people to see Kyren as someone who was maybe fricked already before finding himself doubly fricked out there on the road in Houston. No explaining away the discharging of a weapon and fleeing the police to NFL execs who are already looking at you skeptically as hell, even if the December incident became strictly a civil matter or got swept completely.
What you have described is the stretch in my humble opinion.
Kyren's disrupted attempt inside the house led him to discharging the weapon outside so that he might make his way to the car. He then got in the car and drove around for a bit prior to HPD's pursuit that lasted long enough for them to report it as a chase.
Wouldn't it seem more expedient to just discharge the weapon with intent there in the yard? Or at first opportunity once he was away in the car?
We'll never know of course, but the logic does not compute.
I don't think it's a stretch for people to see Kyren as someone who was maybe fricked already before finding himself doubly fricked out there on the road in Houston. No explaining away the discharging of a weapon and fleeing the police to NFL execs who are already looking at you skeptically as hell, even if the December incident became strictly a civil matter or got swept completely.
What you have described is the stretch in my humble opinion.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:25 pm to TheRouxGuru
Friends of family and shills for the lawyer in here spinning like a top.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:26 pm to BigBrod81
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Because him taking his own life had way more to do with just the wreck situation. I swear the average person is so frickin simple minded.
So, it wasn't the the way the investigation was held, or that he was unfairly targeted, or unfairly portrayed in the media and/or social media? And, he didn't just run out of time before the Grand Jury which would have solved everything?
Keep in mind, that's the contention of Lacy's attorney.
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