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re: Dennis Dodd's decade rankings 1-10

Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:24 pm to
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Florida should be #1. USC there is a joke.


Really?

All those 8 win seasons under Zook just shot them to the top of the board huh?
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4115 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:26 pm to
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Uh, shouldn't an undefeated AU team have been in one of those championship game?

No.
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Didn't OU pretty much get run over in all their championship game losses other than vs UF and played in a lesser conference than the SEC?

No. USC kicked the shite out of them. Throwing into the endzone to tie the game in the 4th is not getting run over. Yes, it's a lesser conference, but so what?
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don't buy OU in the top 2 at all. USC, mmm, well, they have been tough for anyone to beat in big games.

I don't care where you rank them now. If they win this yr, they will be the team of the decade. Same for USC, LSU, Ohio State, FL, and probably TX.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61896 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:28 pm to
Boise State = OU disqualified from this talk.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4115 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:30 pm to
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Boise State = OU disqualified from this talk.

Then shouldn't UAB disqualify us? Boise State was in a fricking BCS bowl.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:31 pm to
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USC there is a joke.


It's people like you who give LSU fans a bad name.

USC is 93-22 since 2000 (that is including a 5-7 2000 season and a 6-6 2001 season when Pete was rebuilding the program). Florida is 87-28, so USC has won 81% of its games, while UF has won 76%.

USC has two national championships, and regardless of how thick-skulled you want to be, they won a national championship in 2003. You cannot ignore the fact that USC was the #1 team in the polls and got left out of the championship game. Had the roles been reversed, you would be bitching about LSU having two titles.

USC's season by season results look like this:

2000 5-7
2001 6-6
2002 11-2 (Rose Bowl champs)
2003 12-1 (national championship, Rose Bowl champs)
2004 13-0 (consensus national champions)
2005 12-1 (runner-up)
2006 11-2 (Rose Bowl champs)
2007 11-2 (Rose Bowl champs)
2008 12-1 (Rose Bowl champs)

That's six BCS bowl wins and seven Pac-10 championships. Throw in their heisman trophy winners, 1st rounder draft picks, and All-Americans, and I cannot see how they are a "joke" at #1, aside from the fact that you feel insecure about LSU's place (which undoubtedly is the case).

If your argument is that USC plays in a weak conference, well, they dominate their conference, and the Pac-10 has been a better conference than the ACC, BigEast, and Big10 basically this entire decade, while they were as good or better than the Big12 about half the time (2007 being the last time). USC has played top 10 teams from the SEC this decade and has KILLED them. They murdered an Arkansas team in 2006 that we beat by 5 points (and no, Darren McFadden didn't make that big of a difference).

Hell, what about LSU? Why should UF be ahead of LSU at THIS point? LSU has more wins, a better win %, the same amount of national titles, the same amount of SECC's, and more BCS wins.

FWIW, I have no problem with people who want to run with the SEC > Pac-10 angle as to why UF/LSU should be ahead of USC, but ANYONE who suggests USC being #1 is a joke is a complete idiot, homer, or combination of the two.




Posted by soonerhater
Austin
Member since Nov 2008
176 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:36 pm to
1. USC
2. UF
3. LSU
4. OU
5. Texas

The only reason I'd edge out UF over LSU is because LSU had 2 losses in '07 with one being to Arky on the last game of the season.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26814 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:39 pm to
My top 5:

USC
LSU
Florida
OU
Texas

No way Texas should be higher than that...
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216097 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:40 pm to
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Florida's 2007 record is probably the reason they're not #1.






Zook years



Check your stats!!!
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:41 pm to
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All those 8 win seasons under Zook just shot them to the top of the board huh?


I think its a close call for #1 between USC and Florida. I would probably give the nod to Florida.

But either way, Zook's 8 win seasons are better than USC's 5-7 and 6-6 season. USC lost as many regular season in games in those 2 seasons as Zook did in 3
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
48792 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:43 pm to
1. Florida
2. LSU
3. USC
4. OU / Ohio State
5. Texas
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216097 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:45 pm to
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1. Florida
2. LSU
3. USC
4. OU / Ohio State
5. Texas




This is the correct list!!! So FAR!!!!
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:45 pm to
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My top 5:

USC
LSU
Florida
OU
Texas


That's the correct list Chicken. Keep the high quality posts coming, and I may consider you for admin status.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:46 pm to
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USC has won 81% of its games, while UF has won 76%.


I think its a close call. But Florida probably played a tougher schedule to get that 76%, has two undisputed/unshared titles, and never had a losing season.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48792 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:50 pm to
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1. Florida
2. LSU
3. USC
4. OU / Ohio State
5. Texas






This is the correct list!!! So FAR!!!!


I think so, Florida and LSU's 2 BCS titles has more merit than USC's 1 BCS and 1 AP. Take nothing away from the Trojans, but they also had a losing year this decade.
This post was edited on 7/31/09 at 4:56 pm
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:50 pm to
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My top 5: USC LSU Florida OU Texas


I have a tough time putting LSU over Florida objectively. I just don't see it:

1. Florida's two national titles were slightly better. Florida's were both undisputed with 1 loss. LSU lost 2 games to get their undisputed title.

2. LSU's 2002 and 2008 were just as bad as anything Zook put up.
Posted by LSUGradATL
Warsawa/ATL
Member since Jul 2007
10497 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:51 pm to
LSU UF and Miami are my top 3.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216097 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:55 pm to
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Miami




Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61896 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:00 pm to
Since it's only about titles, answer my Oregon State question.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48792 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:01 pm to
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Miami


Looks like this guy has started his weekend real early
Posted by HoustonTiger84
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
60 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:01 pm to
A more detailed article on who is the Program of the Decade:

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